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Brit's Lawyer Knows How To Make A Statement!

Posted on Mon Feb 4, 2008 05:40 PM PDT

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A statement with clothing, that is - check out that snazzy purple tie! Britney's new attorney, Adam Streisand, might've been denied conservatorship by the court today (Brit's dad Jamie still holds that position), but at least he was sharply dressed!

What do we think of this guy? Streisand disagreed with the court investigator's evaluation of his client today, describing Brit as "lucid."

Britney needs trustworthy people in her life right now, and we hope Adam is just that!



How could he not be - after all, he's one of Barbra's relatives!

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Posted by: Anonymous

He is not her lawyer. The judge even said so.



Posted by: x17lies

The Commissioner said Adam Streisand had no legal basis for claiming he's Britney's new lawyer.

He isn't Brits lawyer dudes, get the facts right.



Posted by: Anonymous

Sigh... x17 with false reporting AGAIN. He's not her lawyer.



Posted by: Anonymous

She does have trustworthy people in her life right now... her family. You just cant deal with the fact that they arent sucking up to sam the way you do. figure it out x17... not everyone can be bought. this attorney looks like a tool and a media whore. no wonder your on his side.



Posted by: kimberly325

A R R O G A N T and "out of the loop" is how I describe him. He was supposedly called on the phone over the weekend. I highly doubt he's spent any quality time with Brit. How the heck does he know? Um, perhaps Osama Sam told him. ha ha There's a valid, credible source. Her own attorneys, Trope and Trope, who were so eager to ditch her until a few days ago apparently have had a change of heart. Of course, I'm sure the publicity is rather attractive to their firm. This STREISAND just wants a little attention and photo op. Go figure.



Posted by: Where in the world is Sammy San Diego?

LOL! HER lawyer? yuk yuk yuk! He cleans up good, I heard he just got sprung this afternoon from Brit's ward!

Tomorrow he will announce that he is running for President.

Multiple Personality thing goin' on dude.



Posted by: Cecil

Dude needs a new hair do!



Posted by: Chaz

He is not her lawyer. Britney was unable to make a decision like that in her state and the commissioner said he had no legal basis to claim he is her lawyer.

And X17, you KNOW this. WTF is wrong with you?



Posted by: Jodi

Never trust a lawyer. Plus she's heavily medicated currently and in no position to make ANY decisions, must less interview and hire a lawyer in less than 10 minutes. Her beef with her family is from not wanting to be told what to do. Well someone needs to tell her what to do...



Posted by: The two boys fan

Theother web site TMZ is taking Britney down!!!!!!!!!! Do you remember how the biker hit Britneys car?? He now saids he is hurt. She was not driving. I hate Kevin!!! Never enough!



Posted by: LaLocke

He is not her lawyer why does everyone but X-17 know this?



Posted by: Anonymous

I think x17online puts out statements that purposely get it wrong -- just enough so dozens flock here to blog about their erros. Every time they do that they make more money. Cha-ching



Posted by: Anonymous

His 15 minutes are up you dumb X17 dipshits.



Posted by: The two boys fan

Kevin is using TMZ video of the biker and britney car against her!!
For Court.



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Posted by: Anonymous

She absolutely has trustworthy people in her life!!! HER FAMILY!!! They have nothing to gain from this other than thier grandchildren getting thier mother back. Get a grip X17. As much as I hate to admit it, you MUST be in bed with sam lutfi. Sam is shittin his pants that his ride is OVER!!!!! As too is X17! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! GO LYNNE AND JAMIE SPEARS!!!!!



Posted by: SMACKING THE FUCK OUT OF A BRITARD SHOULD BE A OLYMPIC EVENT TO BAD U ONLY GET 12 TRIES

WAIT TILL ADAM GETS HOME ,AND PUTS ON THE PINK WIG ,AND THE PERIOD STAINED PANTIES BRITNEY PAID IN IN LEGAL FEES .

THE BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS WILL REALLY BRING OUT THE COLOR OF THAT TIE.



Posted by: Get a Grip!

Theother web site TMZ is taking Britney down!!!!!!!!!! Do you remember how the biker hit Britneys car?? He now saids he is hurt. She was not driving. I hate Kevin!!! Never enough!
February 4, 2008 5:54 PM
Posted by: The two boys fan
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What in hell are you talking about? There is nothing on TMZ. If the biker said he was hurt, what the hell does KEVIN have to do with it? Is this Sam? Maybe even Britney herself? Because whoever you are is crazy.



Posted by: The two boys fan

I realy read it!! The new york new !!!!



Posted by: Anonymous

Get your facts right X17 you bunch of pussies...he is NOT her lawyer....You are a bunch of idiots.



Posted by: Go Cry to Babs

The judge clearly said she could not hire a lawyer without the conservator knowing about it. Nice try X17 fucktards. This loser is not her lawyer.



Posted by: Heehawg

X17, you idiots, Streisand is NOT her lawyer, at least not today. Get your stories right, would ya?



Posted by: Anonymous

DO a search on britney gossip. One site called the new york news said the vodeo from tmz is sopenia (spelling is wrong) that keven's lawyer is going to use the footeage of the biker hitting the car Britney was in.



Posted by: Anonymous

He sounds like a tool. First he talks to the reporters immediately after being removed from the courtroom. Then we hear the statements he has made inside the courtroom. A tool.



Posted by: Anonymous

Let em use the damn video and deport Adnan's ass or put the slimeball in jail. He hit the guy and was speeding at over 100 mph. Hell, he didn't even want to stop. He said he was too busy.



Posted by: The two boys fan

Hey. IT changed my name to Anonymous. Go do a search if you do not believe me.



Posted by: Anonymous

Nice try Streisand! You're FIRED!



Posted by: The two boys fan

Kevins lawyer is saying that the video proves that Britney should not drive her kids around because "SHE" hit the biker. TMZ is false!!



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 you bunch of FUCKERS get your facts straight!! He is NOT her lawyer, she is not competant enough to hire a lawyer. Fuck you people are assholes, I hope you all burn in hell



Posted by: Anonymous

6:05

Why would Kevin go after the biker that hit Britney? Britney didn't hit the biker, the biker got too close and hit them.

Makes no sense.



Posted by: Anonymous

too bad they couldn't get Babs out there.



Posted by: lisa

he is my favorite. I am his big fan. Just curious. I saw his profile on millionaire dating site CelebMingle.com last week.



Posted by: Anonymous

Ohh doesnt he look sharp...geez X17 your sinking to a new level. LOSERS

EVERYONE TELL X17 TO FUCK OFF



Posted by: The two boys fan

You are right The article said the biker went to the hospital hurt(NoT) and TMZ is providing the video for court To prove that britney can not drive. The paps surround her!!!



Posted by: Anonymous

two boys fan is just trying to start shit. just some punk kid that has been on here stirring the pot.



Posted by: Anonymous

FUCK OFF



Posted by: Anonymous

6:15 your a fucking moron. why don't you just stfu and go to bed



Posted by: alice

He lost! He's a loser...I don't care what freakin' color of tie he has...Jeez Louise.



Posted by: Anonymous

who is a fucking moron



Posted by: Anonymous

fans> Don't try and drag K-Daddy into this. Let him deal with the boys. He doesn't need fucktards like you bad mouthing him. Your such a fucking loser!



Posted by: Anonymous

who's Barbra?



Posted by: Anonymous

Leave the K alone, I dont like him but he is doing a good job with the boys and should be commended for it



Posted by: Anonymous

There is nothing on TMZ about this. If it were true, TMZ would be saying they were going to use one of their videos. I don't know what this person is talking about. If it's gossip, who cares anyway?



Posted by: swamp

The father is a money grubbing cocaine sucking pimp who Britney hates.

The new lawyer is a fox. Hey you guys are jealous. He's so fine. A real man, dressed to the nines and a sharp educated professional. Ratty ass grubby men are jealous.

The Lawyer is a BABE



Posted by: SARAH WOOD

My God. Got to go see text messages from Lutfi calling Britney a bitch and totally controlling and demeaning her. See bittenandbound.com



Posted by: Anonymous

Sarah, I saw that too... pretty disgusting. I HATE Sam!



Posted by: Anonymous

Yep, those text messages are something. I read them earlier. They are on several sites. Osama is a user, and he is making fun of her being sick.



Posted by: The two boys fan

Go to britney gossip then click the first article on the pap getting hit the site is called 4KNBC.com It is a article that is a little outdated from today. Believe me please. Kevin lawyer want to use tmz footage against britney. Please confirm



Posted by: Anonymous

I just went to bittenandbound....holy shit that guy Sam is a class A fuckwit



Posted by: Anonymous

Yes, Sam is a complete psychopath.



Posted by: Anonymous

I just went to bittenandbound....holy shit that guy Sam is a class A fuckwit



Posted by: We LOVE Brit

Uuuhh, did you miss the part of the briefing where the JUDGE ruled that he was NOT Britney's lawyer, and that she was not mentally capable of hiring a new lawyer?

I bet you won't be willing to report it when it comes out that SAM MADE CONTACT WITH BRITNEY OVER THE WEEKEND CONCERNING/THRU Streisand.

We stand about as much chance of you reporting the TRUTH as we do ever seeing you print that SAM HAS ANOTHER RESTRAING ORDER FILED AGAINST HIM TO KEEP HIM AWAY FROM BRITNEY or that HE'S A CHICKEN/COWARD/LOSER HIDING OUT TO KEEP FROM GETTING SERVED!

x-17 SUCKS more and more with each passing day. You'll be out of business by the Feb.14!

YOUR PROPAGANDA ISN'T WORKING!!!
YOUR PROPAGANDA ISN'T WORKING!!!
YOUR PROPAGANDA ISN'T WORKING!!!



Posted by: Anonymous

You can read more about Sam from Ken Dungey (the guy with the text messages from bittenandbound.com) in a December article on thehollywoodgossip.com. Just search "sam lufti shady past" on that site.



Posted by: We LOVE Brit

Uuuhh, did you miss the part of the briefing where the JUDGE ruled that he was NOT Britney's lawyer, and that she was not mentally capable of hiring a new lawyer?

I bet you won't be willing to report it when it comes out that SAM MADE CONTACT WITH BRITNEY OVER THE WEEKEND CONCERNING/THRU Streisand.

We stand about as much chance of you reporting the TRUTH as we do ever seeing you print that SAM HAS ANOTHER RESTRAING ORDER FILED AGAINST HIM TO KEEP HIM AWAY FROM BRITNEY or that HE'S A CHICKEN/COWARD/LOSER HIDING OUT TO KEEP FROM GETTING SERVED!

x-17 SUCKS more and more with each passing day. You'll be out of business by the Feb.14!

YOUR PROPAGANDA ISN'T WORKING!!!
YOUR PROPAGANDA ISN'T WORKING!!!
YOUR PROPAGANDA ISN'T WORKING!!!



Posted by: Anonymous

I think X17 and SAM are in bed together Fucking BRITNEY OVER

SAM IS A BASTARD



Posted by: Haha Judge Threw Him Out

Britney Spears' 'Lawyer' Ejected From Courtroom After Judge Doesn't Recognize Him As Her Counsel

The battle over Britney Spears' affairs heated up in court on Monday (February 4) as her father and his lawyers faced off against a new attorney who claimed to have been hired by the singer this weekend. The lawyer wanted to fire the singer's father as conservator of her estate, though the court ultimately did not recognize him as her counsel.
Streisand, who said he was referred to the singer by her custody lawyers at Trope and Trope, had also questioned the expertise of court-appointed co-conservator Andrew Wallet, claiming that he didn't have the expertise to handle the estate or the trust, given that Britney's estate is worth $40 million, encompasses 15 separate entities and is in the middle of a $17 million audit. Streisand had asked the court to instead name Northern Trust Bank and Spears' business manager Howard Grossman as co-conservators. Grossman, who hadn't yet handed over the financial information to Wallet because he didn't know if he was supposed to, said he would be "happy to help" his client and her family in any way.

MTV



Posted by: ♥♥PEACE & LOVE FOR BRIT / KIDS & FAMILY♥♥

Britney,
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ღGOD BLESS..... ღ
ღGOD PROTECTS YOU...... ღ
ღGOD ILLUMINATES YOU.......... ღ
ღGOD GIVES PEACE TO YOU............ ღ
ღAND MUCH WISDOM............................... ღ
ღGOD BE WITH YOU.......................................... ღ
ღMUCH PEACE! MUCH PEACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ღ
ღPEACE, PEACE, PEACE, PEACE, PEACE, PEACE, PEACE........ ღ

♪ ღ ♪ ღ ♪ ღ ♪ ღ ♪
Peace, Prosperity and Passion for you and your boys!!! ღ
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Posted by: Anonymous

BOYCOTT X17



Posted by: Anonymous

Adnan Ghalib was turned away when he tried to pay her a visit today. And we hear that the person behind Adnan's rejection was none other than Brit's mom Lynne Spears.

But another eyewitness says not so — and that Brit's paprazzo boyfriend was actually inside the hospital for about 20 minutes to a half hour before he emerged to the waiting paparazzi. "Adnan looked very, very sad," a source says. "He didn't talk to anyone and tried to avoid having his picture taken. He was very upset."

Many had speculated that Lynne had taken to Adnan in the days leading up to Britney's hospitalization, especially when the two rode together to the hospital last week while his archenemy Sam Lutfi and Brit's cousin, Alli Sims, were left to ride in their own cars.

However, today's developments would imply that Adnan's status is almost as low as Brit's former constant companion Sam, who is now the subject of a restraining order prohibiting him from making any contact with the pop star.

ok magazine



Posted by: Anonymous

Go to www.bittenandbound.com and see what a fuckwit X17's lover SAM really is! THE GUYS A BASTARD



Posted by: Anonymous

Brit youcan kiss your money goodbye now. thelawyers are flocking. streisand omfg how funnny



Posted by: Anonymous

FUCK X17



Posted by: Pull Out The Restraints

MANIC pop wreck Britney Spears is being held in a padded room after she hit an all-time low over the weekend.

The troubled singer went into freefall after being told on Sunday she was to be locked in a psychiatric ward for another two weeks, claim sources.

Experts say that medics might even have to resort to using bed restraints or injections to calm the ranting star.

Britney’s parents Lynne, 52, and Jamie, 55, are said to be worried sick by their daughter’s bizarre behaviour.

Daily Star



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 and SAM fuck each other



Posted by: Wizard

Man I bet she was fit to be tied (pun intended) when she found out she lost in court today.



Posted by: Anonymous

Just another skeezy shade in a long line of hangers on. The goofball needs her parents.



Posted by: Anonymous



You guys advertising bittenandbound crap:

THIS IS NOT AN AD BOARD.

F'in momos..........




Posted by: Anonymous



NICE TRY STREISAND, BUT YOU WERE NEVER HIRED!!!

Who ya gonna bill?????

:-)



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 Im not happy with you



Posted by: Anonymous

7:04
and who the hell are you? Fuck Off.



Posted by: Anonymous

Who are you talking to? Telling who to fuck off?



Posted by: Anonymous

GO READ THE ARTICLE ABOUT SAM ON

bittenandbound.com

THERE YOU WILL SEE WHAT OSAMA LUFTI IS REALLY LIKE!!

HE IS A PSYCHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Anonymous

The article at bittenandbound about says it all. Can you imagine what all we do not know!

This site is playing with fire with the company they keep and the way they are running their propoganda. Not smart...



Posted by: Anonymous

FUCK YOU ANON and go fuck your mother



Posted by: Anonymous

7:04 this is not advertising. I went there and was shocked and just wanted to share. If your not interested then dont fucking read the post



Posted by: Anonymous

ALSO GO TO

thehollywoddgossip.com

AND SEARCH "SAM LUTFI SHADY PAST" FOR MORE TO THE STORY!!!!!

OSAMA IS A PSYCHO!!!!!



Posted by: Anonymous

I fucking loved the site....it shows sams true colors....sam is a bastard and he needs to go fuck himself straight up the ass



Posted by: I can't believe all this, America?

She hired him. She has rights. I think fresh new counsel is just the thing she needs. It's HER money, she EARNED it. Good god almighty how much more does she have to pay to get DIVORCED! Of course the court appointed attorney wants the MONEY! Brit hired Adam. Go ADAM STREISAND! Help Britney!



Posted by: Anonymous

I MEANT

thehollywoodgossip.com



Posted by: This part is optional!

Okay, I just check out the Web site being talked about above. Good link - some funny/creepy text messages written by Sam. What a strange dude.



Posted by: x17's hands are just as dirty as everyone else's

x17 is "holding" my other post for "approval", so maybe this one will get through.

Lutfi claims that he makes no money from Britney and he is there as a friend. He has said before that he is her manager. He also says that he has never accepted money from the media, however it has been widely reported that he informs the paparazzi of her whereabouts and provides them with invaluable information. According to X-17 co-owner Brandy Navarre, Sam tells her things “that the TMZs and Us Weeklys of the world would die for.”



Posted by: Anonymous

I cant believe this America, have you read anything thats been fucking going on? The girl has been deemed not able to make a decision for herself at the moment. What you got a problem reading english for fucks sake you idiot. NO ONE with an interest in SAM LUFTI should be representing Britney at the moment. You are an idiot



Posted by: Anonymous

7:20-1 she is divorced you idiot, they are custody lawyers



Posted by: G

X17 post seems to give seal of approval on the sleazy Lawyer that got himself "assigned" to a case by someone who has legally beeen evaluated "not to comprehend the series of legal issues she is involved in & by association with Trope legal team that has till today been controlled by Sam & some warped personal agenda he had.


It appears X17 gets all their "Britney" information either directly from Sam or they call him to get his approval! NOT to mention X17 is totally anti-ADNAN ...to keep Sam happy of course, so they can keep the exclusive Brit tips coming their way. What do you guys think?



Posted by: Anonymous

HEY SAM YOU COWARD WHY DON'T YOU TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE, DO US ALL A FAVOR AND KILL YOURSELF??

YOU ARE SUCH A PATHETIC BITCH!!!

SO SAD!



Posted by: Teddy

x17 u guys are pathethic, now that Brit is in the hospital ur going crazy wondering what kind of Brit-related news to shit out... so sad, ur obsessed



Posted by: Anonymous

the post above was for the dickhead who called themself "I cant believe this America" FUCKING WANKER



Posted by: anonymous

x17--You act like you've never seen a man in a suit and tie before! Nothing special about this loser's clothes. You call his tie snazzy--if Kaplan was wearing it you'd make some remark about him buying it with Britney's money!! You do indeed SUCK.



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 sucks



Posted by: Steve F Cruz

That's a Lootfee flunky. Who else would be this lame?



Posted by: Purple people eater

Adam wearing a purple tie gives me faith that not all lawyers are dorks.



Posted by: Anonymous

BOYCOTT X17



Posted by: SIT DOWN! - SHUT UP!

7:20 (first one) Don't know where you've been, but uhhh... BRITNEY HAS BEEN DIVORCED FOR SOME TIME. shesh.....

Secondly, she already has attorneys to handle her child custody dispute with Kevin Federline. Those attorneys are Trope & Trope.

This idiot fashion plate (Streisand) petitioned the courts to try to change the conservatorship of Britney's estate. Unfortunately for him, Britney has been declared unable to make a rational decision about hiring lawyers at the moment.

I assume you're competent to argue that the mental health profession and the legal profession are incorrect in their assessment?



Posted by: anonymous

Like his cousin Babs,Streisand is a drama queen no doubt "hired" by Lutfi. This guy THINKS he is Britney's lawyer. Trope and Trope are working hand in hand with Lutfi and are all about the money now.This is nothing but a circus.People posting on here need to quit attacking the Spears family and Kevin...there is an old saying that there is a special place in Hell for lawyers and for control freaks as well.(That means you oSAMa Lutfi!



Posted by: cloe

did anyone see reports today of Britney is only worth $40 million.Last year she was worth $100 million. I don't care how much frapps and cars she has, I wonder how much is lining sams and x17's pockets!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Anonymous


I bet some of Britney's fans could think of a few ways to get Sam out of his house so they could serve him with the restraining order. :)

I also hope the process server is driving a beater of a vehicle. Remember when Kaplan's server tried to corner Slippery Sam?

I say we storm the gates & pull old Osama out by the short hairs! :)



Posted by: Purple people eater

"Britney needs trustworthy people in her life right now"

She has that chin fuzz guy, Adnan. Isn't he enough? Let Adnan's trustworthiness be enough to comfort Brit Brit. Damn you Adnan and your trustworthiness. How can us regular Joes compete against you and your chin stripe?



Posted by: Anonymous

7:45 cloe:

I was shocked too when I saw it. I hope they do an extensive forensic accounting so they can determine for sure whether she pissed it away or whether people have been stealing from her.

$40 mil in her area of California isn't spit. Before you know it, she'll have to move back home. She won't be able to afford California!



Posted by: Go Britney

Adam Streisand has a whole week to prove he is Bitney's lawyer and that her Dad trying to take control is causing harm to her recovery. And that was an unexpected ploy to use the fact that Wallet does not have the know how to manage the estate. So why do they need two lawyers... Grossman can do the job. Proves Jamie is a dumb ass and is costing his daughter even more money. Eight lawyers in the "not necessary" custody hearing today and then he wants Mr. Wallet to do what?.... look over Mr. Grossmans shoulder... guy does not have the qualifications... STUPID

AND the Judge also STOPPED Jamie from firing her custody lawyers.

Britney, despite her new maybe or maybe not lawyer held her Dad off on two counts... No firing the custody lawyers and gets another week to build up evidence on getting her dad fired as conservator.



Posted by: Anonymous

Lufti will most certainly go to hell! And X17 how dare you try and make her parents out to be the bastards WHEN YOU AND SAM are the bastards when it comes to BRITNEY...LEAVE THEM ALONE



Posted by: Anonymous

Ya, get sam out of the house..lay a dollar bill on the doorstep. He will open the door to get it. He is gonna need it



Posted by: Anonymous

GoBritney 7:52> He asked Wallet, who was already in Britneys employ, to be a co-conservator so that idiots like you wouldnt jump to the conclusion that anything was going on.



Posted by: Anonymous

There are a lot of people involved who have a lot to answer for in regards to the abuse and exploitation of Britney Spears. She will come out of this scarred but wise and stronger I hope; but it does not take away from the real damage inflicted on her from his business. Shameful..all in the name of money and getting the picture of her in the worst light. Down right shameful. When did we as a society stop trying to lift people up and start trying to tear people down. This is not a game folks. This is the life and mental health of a young person who was trusting and nieve..and misused.



Posted by: Anonymous

7:52 Go Britney

You enablers are a major reason she's in the pathetic condition that she's in.

Please feel free to pat yourself on the back.



Posted by: Anonymous

Hey "go britney" GO FUCK YOURSELF Dont you see the girl needs help in making decisions you idiot!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Shady Sam Strikes Again!!!

From Page Six:

Britney Spears' 'choice' for co-conservator is her business manager, Howard Grossman.

Sounds reasonable, but sources close to the case tell PageSix.com: Howard has had a long-standing friendship with none other than Sam Lutfi.

When we asked Howard about Sam earlier today, the manager told us, "no comment."



Posted by: Anonymous

Again, this guy is not her lawyer. He was thrown out of court by the judge. I have no idea where 7:52 is getting the info but it's obviously BS. No one is reporting on that.



Posted by: 25 or 624

Maybe Sam can meet Babs through his second cousin above and become HER assistant and then weasel his way into her life, stealing from her Am Ex card and making her beg him not to leave her alone for shits and giggles. Then he can call people and brag about how much power he has over Barbra.

Maybe that's Sam's big plan. Get in with the Streisands.

He's such an incredible tool. I wish someone would beat the living shit out of him.



Posted by: Anonymous

Ah regarding the S&M tell all website. I thought we all agreed that text messages were EASY as hell to fake. And the messages are harmless so what crap. And an email.... please again easy to fake. Plus for whatever reason those guys acknowledge they already have reasons not to like Lutfi..

Once again, people can say any kind of crap they want to a judge or write up in a restaining order... or fake emails and texts... show me the pictures.. Innocent untril proven guilty.... this is the most interesting thing I have realized.... Judges need very little eidence to slap out a restraining order or take children away from a mother... I mean... if it were an actual court of law.... this would not prove anyone guilty... Meanwhile Britney loses her kids and breaksdown... but we have seen no proof beyond a reasonable doubt.. just people talking shit with agendas. SCARY!!



Posted by: Anonymous

Hey Sam, if you happen to be reading this because we know X17 are you fuck buddies.....go to hell!



Posted by: Anonymous

Adnan in Samoan means "mighty chin stripe of doom."



Posted by: Anonymous

7:57

Aw shucks! I was thinking more along the lines of a gallon of gas and a match! I know, that's evil. It was only a thought... heh heh heh



Posted by: Anonymous

7:57
I like it...



Posted by: Anonymous

8:00 Wallet was alreay in Britney's emlploy? In what capacity? I have never read that. Where did you learn that?



Posted by: Dick Long

Angelina Jolie is having twins and a paternity test shows that Adnan's chin fuzz is the daddy.



Posted by: Anonymous

Brandy, why don't you get your pal Britney's attorney to give you some legal advice on your fraudulent operations?

Hi, Brandy/JTard/Ella/Anoymous/Most bloggers on x17 ... ;) ** WAVES **



Posted by: Anonymous

8:12: WHAT are you talking about??? This took place in the California courts! You're confusing criminal court with civil court, which shows that you don't know what you're talking about!

NONE OF US has access to the court files upon which the commissioner based his decision. They're sealed!

But keep in mind that Britney was given more chances than any other average parent would have been given & she blew them ALL OFF. That may have been because she's been ill. Maybe she'll improve.

Nevertheless, all the commissioner had to work with was what he was given: a non-compliant mother who wouldn't cooperate with the court orders, wouldn't show up for court half the time to even feign interest in re-gaining custody & wouldn't work with the court-appointed monitor. Plus all the other stunts she was pulling. She really did get a lot of chances! I hope she improves too, but you're apparently not seeing what the courts have had to work with.



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 SUCKS



Posted by: Anonymous

Osama has four restraining orders against him. That seems like more than the average person has. I mean sure most people probably have one or two restraining orders against them, but FOUR?



Posted by: Adnan is ok despite his stupid chin stripe

All you Adnan haters need to shut your mouth. Britney seems to trust him since she keeps him around. We all know that Britney has good judgment in friends and boyfriends. So if Adnan is ok with Bri then he's ok with me. Up yours Adnan haters.



Posted by: Anonymous

the average person ha ha ha ha I dont have any but four is a hell of a lot



Posted by: Anonymous

Hey 8:25 you say she has good judgement when it comes to friends, tell me did she have good judgement when she befriended SAM? Hey you idiot, she is not in any right mind and hasnt been for the last few months to make a sound decision. I really wonder about the mentality of some posters here....you are stupid and Adnan has been making money from brit pics....honestly have you had a labotomy?



Posted by: FaFa Fooey

Adnan's chin stripe raped my pet hamster.



Posted by: Anonymous

the court appointed lawyer who met with Brit yesterday says she is in La-La land as of yesterday. Why did he not mention the medications they have her under to control her? That is the reason why she is not lucid. She is being drugged like crazy. In a padded cell.. You all saw her out in public is this really what Britney needs. Was she that CRAZY! A padded cell.. the criminally insanse don't even get padded cell.. Poor poor Britney. Her parents want total control.. I can't wait to see what the IRS audit will turn up on her parents.. Drug her up get her out of the picture and blame her for everything when it all goes down.. poor poor girl.. My main concern at this point is her health.. She needs to get away from everyone, family, fans, everyone... Wasn't she in some sort of rehab place earlier last year too? What happened then?



Posted by: Anonymous

A reasonable father would have had a conversation like this with his Daughter:

Dad: Honey, I know you really like this Sam fello and he is your friend but we have not known
him for very long. Do you think it would be a reasonable idea to put someone we all trust in
charge of your estate while you are getting well and not able to oversee all the details? How
about myself and Mr. Grossman? How would you feel about that darling?

Britney: Okay, Daddy. I trust Mr. Grossman. Please don't hurt Sams feelings he has been my
best friend and stood by me through really terrible times. He really cares about me and
has given me some good advice. He is not my manager just someone who has been helping me. I have
been so scared I have forced him to stay with me as much as he could.

Dad: I can see how you are very greatful to Sam for being a good friend. I will not do
anything to hurt his feelings. Do you feel comfortable with myself and Mr. Grossman
handling your affairs while you are in the hospital?

Britney: Daddy, please don't change anything I made these decisions good or bad on my own and
it is important for me to learn how to handle these things. If something is very wrong please
bring it to my attention and we can talk together how to handle it.

Dad: Okay darling I promise not to change things, just to ensure that the money stays put
for now untill you are feeling fine and can handle it on your own.

Britney: Thanks Daddy, I love you. I feel better already. Can you ask Sam to get me
a burger and fries? He has a credit card of mine to pay for these kinds of things. It only
has a 500 dollar limit. He has not abused this privlege and it makes things easier for me.

Dad: Ok, I will leave this alone for now. Yes, let's ask Sam to get us all burgers and fries.

Britney: Yeah!



Posted by: Anonymous

1) I'll repeat what others have said: He's not her lawyer.

2) Can't any of them back off and let her HEAL? For fuck's sake, it seems they all want a piece of her money EXCEPT her dad!!



Posted by: Oh My

Streisand also said one of at least 15 of Spears' entities is being audited by the IRS.



Posted by: Anonymous

Part 2
Britney: Daddy, please don't change anything I made these decisions good or bad on my own and
it is important for me to learn how to handle these things. If something is very wrong please
bring it to my attention and we can talk together how to handle it.

Dad: Okay darling I promise not to change things, just to ensure that the money stays put
for now untill you are feeling fine and can handle it on your own.

Britney: Thanks Daddy, I love you. I feel better already. Can you ask Sam to get me
a burger and fries? He has a credit card of mine to pay for these kinds of things. It only
has a 500 dollar limit. He has not abused this privlege and it makes things easier for me.

Dad: Ok, I will leave this alone for now. Yes, let's ask Sam to get us all burgers and fries.

Britney: Yeah!



Posted by: Anonymous

8:26

You don't have any restraining orders against you? Wow you are weird! Don't get out much, huh?

Why can't people see that Sam is just a sweet decent guy with a heart of gold and the intentions of an angel? Some mean-spirited people must have felt ashamed to be around him, because he is so sweet compared to them, so they go got restraining orders against him to soothe their guilty consciences about being so unworthy to be in his heavenly presence.

Oh and I blame our litigous society on the half-dozen lawsuits against him. And yes, it is perfectly normal to tell people to kill themselves via text message, I do it all the time. And when those photographers saw him making a drug deal in the alley, I know he was just picking up some clothes for a friend like he said, probably his friend Tinkerbell who keeps her tutu in a tiny plastic bag.



Posted by: The Society To Stop Adnan's Chin Fuzz

George Bush? Nope. Dick Chaney? Nope. The UN? Nope. The real power controlling world events is Adnan's chin fuzz. It has gone insane with power and ruthlessness. It must be stopped!



Posted by: Anonymous

To a reasonable father post.
Are you F' ING kidding or are you just one dumb mo fo?
W T F
She is in a padded room, helloooooo
McFly?????????????????????
If she could figure out that conversation, she could be taking care of her own damn affairs.
Holy shit Sam, will your bullshit ever end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: x17 stop paying lame bloggers!!!!!!!!!

x17 sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dont argue with the bloggers on this site....these are people that are getting paid by x17 to bring more people to post replies!!!

x17 sucks!



Posted by: Education Is Your Friend

8:32 PLEASEEEEEEEEEE educate yourself. Of course they use padded rooms and restraints. It is quite common. It is for their protection, as well as for other patients and staff. They also give them thorazine. Are you going to spaz out now? It's life hon. Visit a Psyche Unit and learn.



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 SUCKS ASS



Posted by: Anonymous

8:40 You are so right.



Posted by: Anonymous

Don't worry X17 will get what they deserve, it's only a matter of time.



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 sucks dead dogs dicks too? Is that a good one? X17 SUCKS



Posted by: Anonymous

8:37 the phtographer part.. that is when you know for SURE none of it is true. NO PITURES? REALLY NO PICTURES THEY LIVE FOR PICTURES IT IS THEIR LIVE THOSE KINDS OF PICTURES AND YET AT THAT VERY MOMENT... WHEN THEY NORMALL SHOOT EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN THEY SUDDENLY PUT DOWN THEIR CAMERAS yeah right.

I don't think Lutfi is perfect.. most of us aren't. I just have not seen any proof as of yet that he robbed or hurt Britney. I think he was flattered to pieces that she was so desperae to have him by her side... because she was a total lonely mess.. I think he did his best to be a friend to a very desprate and sad girl.

Show me the drug deal pics.. they are worth a shit load of money.



Posted by: Anonymous

Whether or not Brit TRULY requested Streisand may not be known for awhile. What should be of concern is that she cannot hire ANYONE without the permission of the conservators. In plain English she cannot do anything that her dad does not agree with. Conservatorship or total control? As much as I am THRILLED that she is being "contained" it does seem troublesome that she cannot even express her desires (in this case legally) without her father's permission. Whether or not she is truly capable of understanding what she is asking of others is another question. But what if she REALLY does want someone other than her father to be a co-conservator and she cannot even be heard because Papa is able to shut her down?



Posted by: Anonymous

x17 sucks donkey dong!!!!



Posted by: Anonymous

x17 sucks donkey dong!!!!



Posted by: I'm Having Trouble Accepting The Ignorance

Seriously, has no one on here ever been to a Psyche Unit or visited someone else in one? Has no one ever had to get a conservatorship for a loved one, with alzheimer's or another mental illness? I really want to believe people are not this ignorant, but it's getting really hard for me.



Posted by: Anonymous

X17....you are a disapointment



Posted by: Anonymous

X17....you are a disapointment



Posted by: Anonymous

8:52..
Honestly, I hope I have not sounded completely ignorant to this subject, but yes I have been lucky enough not to experience this.
I really don't know what it is like, when they say padded room, you picture something out of a movie...If you would like to school us on this, I am listening...



Posted by: Anonymous

8:49 - everything you said is correct, but a court appointed attorney talked to her and determined that she cannot understand making that decision. It may not be what you like, but it's the law. Everything they are doing is approved by the laws of California.



Posted by: Anonymous

The ignorance is frustrating which is why I resort to being a dickhead on here and loosing my temper



Posted by: Anonymous

8:49 that is a good point. Somene wrote on here about the procedure .. something about someone from the court has to tell her what is going on and if she objects she has the right to be assigned legal council.. to fight it..

So... who was this guy...the court investigator as he was called. Is that his job .. is that what he did? Showed up to tell Britney what was what. Apparently he only spent 15 minutes with her. Now a court doctor will be told to go in and evaluate her and determine if she can make heads or tails of hwat is going on. They are to report back to the Judge on the 13 and another hearing will be heldon the 14th.

The thing this brings up is... Britney must have some kind of will? A good attorney would likely have asked her this question and have it on a document.. who is to care for her estate if she is incapacitated in any way? And alot of us should make sure we draw up papers that stipilate that... cause yikes... looks like anyone could have swooped into court and taken control.



Posted by: Instigator

8:52-

Most do not understand what this family is going through at this point. Most do not understand what this woman is experiencing right now. Mental health issues are not ones that are championed in our society.



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 Sucks a whales dick



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 Sucks a whales dick



Posted by: Anonymous

8:48..
Ok, let's just say he didn't rob or hurt her.
I do know that he sat around and said nothing and did nothing to get her into court when she needed to be there. He 9 times out of 10, would just take her to lunch on a court day.
I do know that as a manager, he sucked. She had no security, had hired her maid as her assistant and showed up for the biggest gig of her career (wasted?tired?both?)
Besides, he slept at her house, dragged his friend or lover? in also.
Called the media (aka seacrest/walters) to talk about lame shit and make himself look good...can you say media whore..
As a friend he fails and as a manager he again... fails
He took no salary? How the hell did he support himself? He was the go between for Trope and Trope, why didn't she ever make it to court on time?
Why didn't he say something or do something when HE KNEW she was going down in flames?



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 I didnt know you liked to suck on whales dicks????



Posted by: Anonymous

Now, being a veteran web stalker of Btitney... I can just see her in the hospital with the court appointed guy. Now, if noone has told her ahead of time that this guy is showing up... she may have seriously blown him off in her sarcastic way.. I am picturing this in my mind and laughing... cause she really knows how to make a jerk of you when she is in a snarky sarcastic mood.
I can just see her doing the HUh? What? Huh? What? and then repeating what he said really sarcastically...
oh man Britney... you are such a brat.



Posted by: Anonymous

9:02

The court-appointed attorney would have had a limited visit with Britney due to her fragile state. When someone is diagnosed as Gravely Disabled, they're not capable of holding a business meeting.



Posted by: JS

I've had my son committed twice, but he was willing to go, so I can't tell you much about unvoluntary. I can tell you about the Psyche Units. They are not some horrible place you think about in the movies. Yes, they do have some patients like Britney that are severe, but they are well treated in most places. They do have rooms (They call them quiet rooms) where they can calm down if they get upset and sometimes they are medicated or restrained. The last time my son was actually hit by another patient, so it does happen, but usually it's just people like himself that have gotten off their meds or relapsed. They have different levels. Acute is for the severe and then as they progress they get more freedom. They have a day room for TV, they can smoke at certain times, etc. It's not pleasant but it's nothing anyone couldn't go through. After all is said and done, if she gets well, her stay will be well worth it and she can hopefully return to her life. Most people who have to return will relapse or stop their meds. It is a never ending battle.



Posted by: Anonymous

JS,
Thanks for the heads up on what it's like there. Hope that your son is doing better now. I really hope I never "ever" have that problem.
Thanks



Posted by: Anonymous

Sam came after the VMA's. He was around for the Video and she did a great job on that. If Britney doesn't want to do something she is NOT doing it. It took a shrink and 30 cops to get her into the hospital.

Apparently Sam is from a Rich family has a litte money of his own. He can afford to chill out with Britney and wrack up his credit cards for a year.

Did you see that video of them when she was driving the new car and they were playing hot seat? Man, she tore a strip off of him. And she fired a shit load of assistants. I don't think Britney does anything she does not want to do. And I can totally see her crying and begging him to hang around. I think he brought Chad buddy into the picture cause he was sick of beiing with girl for month after month and needed a buddy.



Posted by: Anonymous

9:02 some reports say after her last hospitalization she put Sam in charge of many things and even added him to a couple of accounts that he had not been on previously. Either that is a fabricated story or the court chose not to accept her wishes as they may view her as having been incompetent at that time. Either way, a guy who spends 15 minutes with you and can make a report that determines your next ten days is pretty damn scary. There should be a minimum number of times they have to meet with you. If she is bi-polar as they say and can love and hate the same people in an hour time frame, that certainly says to me her comprehension/ability levels may change from hour to hour also. Just seems a little too frightening that she has absolutely no rights until February 14, a pretty damn long time period if you ask me. What would technically happen if she is fully detoxed in the next day or two and more "rational" but no one will speak to her or hear her because her father has the power to keep them out. Just really glad that is not me in this situation. And for the person who brought up Alzheimers and/or Dementia; Yes, I have been there with an in-law but she was DIAGNOSED. As far as we know, Brit has no official diagnosis yet that would warrant such "seclusion" from help.



Posted by: Chicago

9:16 JS: I'm sorry to read about your son. As you write, it's a never-ending battle.

I don't think the majority of posters here understand the California Welfare & Institutions code Section 5250 & the related sections.

Under 5270.55, Britney can be involuntarily held an additional 30 days AFTER the 14 day period if medical professionals deem it necessary. It can go on and on. And even after she's released to assisted outpatient treatment, her status can be revoked should the physicians deem it necessary. This is going to be a lifelong thing. I think her fans expect that she'll just pop out of the hospital one day all "cured".

Also, due to the Gravely Disabled diagnosis, Britney now has been entered in the State's Mental Health Firearms Prohibition Database. The Baretta will have to be sold. She can no longer possess a firearm.

As time passes, I think people will gain a clearer understanding of what's going on, and the severity of the situation. At least I hope they do.



Posted by: LONDON

woof woof im very hungry please can someone feed me before i pass out or worse still sam the man tries to sell me on e-bay !



Posted by: Anonymous

sorry 9:22
But the vma's were in sept and sam showed up in the summer..oh, he was around....I doubled checked. ding ding WRONG



Posted by: Anonymous

Just wanted to address the civil vs. criminal court issue.
It seems to me the burden of proof in civil court may be a little
light. We have seen how easy it is to really fuck up a persons life
in an extremely serious way.

What I have learned is... take first blood. Kevin got first blood
and it did him a world of good... If Britney had gone after Kevin
first ... he would have been pot brownie mush....

Same with the conservatorship... Damn.... too bad Britney did not have papers
drawn up well ahead of time

Yep you show up in court and show the judge a bit of this and that and make
a few damning statements and ... yee haw... your opponent is behind the eight
ball and playing catch up.



Posted by: Instigator

Hey Chicago,

How are you tonight? I am predicting three inches of snow for you tonight.



Posted by: Anonymous

what happens when Brit gets better? When doc says she is competent. If she comes out to say she did hire Streisand, hates her dad and feels the court did not act in her best interest in who they appointed as her conservators.. What happens then? Is Brit going to just sit and be controlled or is she going to come out of this OK and able to make decisions for herself without being controlled by anyone? Can she sue the state of CA? Her dad and everyone else that has done her wrong during this time? I'm just wondering what recourse someone who is in Brit's position has once she gets better and feels she was wronged while she was hospitalised.



Posted by: Anonymous

Hi Chicago-
from baseball mom in Cali



Posted by: Chicago

9:25:

Today's hearing involved much more than the testimony of the court-appointed lawyer. His testimony was just a "layer" so to speak. Other issues which were included were various medical reports and other testimony.

It was a "preponderance of the evidence" which led to today's ruling. No one thing or person made this happen.

I have a difficult time with anyone who tries to separate someone from their family. That's typically a maneuver used by control freaks who abuse their victims - either physically or emotionally - or both.

Just because Sam allowed Britney to yell at him in public doesn't mean that he doesn't employ other tactics to control her. Apparently there was enough evidence against Sam that the courts ruled him a danger to her health.



Posted by: mstnamarie

8:23 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
too funny!!!!!
I couldnt agree more!



Posted by: Anonymous

Sorry London...
I bet you are going into Cigs withdrawl too....



Posted by: Anonymous

Sorry London...
I bet you are going into Cigs withdrawl too....



Posted by: Anonymous

Just wanted to address the civil vs. criminal court issue.
It seems to me the burden of proof in civil court may be a little
light. We have seen how easy it is to really fuck up a persons life
in an extremely serious way.

What I have learned is... take first blood. Kevin got first blood
and it did him a world of good... If Britney had gone after Kevin
first ... he would have been pot brownie mush....

Same with the conservatorship... Damn.... too bad Britney did not have papers
drawn up well ahead of time

Yep you show up in court and show the judge a bit of this and that and make
a few damning statements and ... yee haw... your opponent is behind the eight
ball and playing catch up.



Posted by: JS

Chicago. Thanks, my son is doing better. He has schizoaffective disorder, which is a fancy name, but it really means a little bit of all of it. We have been in and out of hospitals for a very long time, and I have to agree that 2 weeks will probably not be enough time for Britney. I could go on and on about what we have been through, but everyone is different. As someone said earlier, mental illness is a hard thing to grasp. It's not like a knee injury where you have an operation and then recoop. This tends to come back. I think the Spears family has a long road ahead and I wish them the best. I'm sure they are all going through hell right now. I know we sure have. It's so hard to watch your child suffer and there is really nothing you can do. My prayers go out to all of them.



Posted by: LOOKS

LOOKS LIKE YOUR TYPICAL JEW ATTORNEY IN LA THAT IS RIPPING HER OFF AND THE STATE...



Posted by: Chicago

Hi Everybody! :)

Oh Instigator, I only wish you were right about the snow. Actually they're predicting that we may get another 10 inches! I KNEW I should have learned to ski when I was younger.

A friend of ours houses the Budweiser Clydesdales a few miles away. Maybe we could talk them into hitching up the sleigh? I could handle a nice romantic sleigh ride with my husband. :)

It will probably be hot chocolate in front of the fireplace - which is also great.

I've already done my grocery shopping & am ready to bake until we all turn to blimps. ha ha

Oh and FOG? My goodness - you can't see 25 feet in front of you right now. YUK! How is it in the land of Sunshine? Go ahead you guys - make me jealous. :)



Posted by: Anonymous

9:32... for the VMA's she was with that new manager dude... the one that has the Mind Freak as his client also. I remember Alli around then but not Sam.



Posted by: Chicago

9:40 JS

I feel the same way. You can see the strain on her dad's face. This is new to them too - I don't know if they even realize how long the road will be.

My prayers go out to them, as well as you and your son. Your son went voluntarily. You know he's trying; he wants to get better too. It's heartbreaking.



Posted by: Anonymous

Now that she is in the system as a looni does this mean dad has control over her all the time? He can hold this over her head?

Also, what did she do that has put her away and it seems they can keep adding more and more time for her confinement. What did this poor girl do that was so bad? I'm confused about the severity of her crime. Is this the law? I can lose my rights at any time this easy? Her parents have 8 lawyers, top bulldogs in court. She is in a padded cell with a security guard hired by the parents right outside her door. How sad.. What did she do that warrants all of this?



Posted by: Anonymous

Isn't there a story about Sam and the VMA's? I think he was there and got mad about Sarah Silverman deal. He wasn't really known then, but I remember reading something about that.



Posted by: Anonymous

TO JS,
I CAN'T RAD ALL THIS OTHER SHIT BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A SON THAT IS SUFFERING FROM MULTIPLE MENTAL ISSUES, I AM SORRY AND HOPE THAT HE GETS HELP. I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS BEING HARD TO GRASP OR UNDERSTAND...IT IS NOT SO EASILY TO TREAT. THE FAMILY SUFFERS SO MUCH. MY EX HUSBAND AND BEST FRIEND AND FATHER TO MY CHILDREN KILLED HIMSELF ON XMAS DAY. HE WAS BI-BOLAR/MANIC-DEPRESSIVE/ALCOHOLC/PRESRIPTION DRUG TAKER...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH... PLEASE EVERYONE TAKE NOTICE AND BE PROACTIVE WHEN DEALING WITH SOMEONE WHO IS MENTALLY ILL. IT MASKS ITSELFS AND WILL FOOL YOU LIKE THIS WEBSITE THAT I THINK FED INTO BRITS ILLNESS AND DELAYED HER HELP



Posted by: Anonymous

IF SHES LUCID AS THE LAWYER DESCRIBES, THEN THEY HAVE STARTED HER ON THE BI-POLAR MEDS. ALL THIS SHIT IS TOO HARD TO BELIEVE. HOW DOES SOMEONE FUCK UP THIS DAMM BAD. DAMM! KIM KARDASHIAN HAS A NICE ASS! I DONT THINK IVE EVER SEEN ONE LIKE IT!



Posted by: Instigator

JS-

I assume that you have probably grieved over your son's diagnosis. As a parent, I can't imagine that when your son was little you had hopes and dreams for him, and a life with a mental illness never entered the picture. It must have been heartbreaking when you received the news. The realization that life would never be "normal" for your son or your family. No matter how well controlled his illness is, its probably always in the back of your mind that things can change in an instance. I know I am making a lot of assumptions, and I apologize if I am wrong about any of this. I also do not mean to infer that your son does not have a meaningful life. I am sure that he probably does. I am just hoping that others here will stop and think about the far reaching effects that a mental illness can have not only on the person with the disease, but also everyone around them.

I think you are courageous for sharing your story here. This site does not always attract the most mature audience. I wish you and your family well.



Posted by: Chicago

9:40 (first one) Actually you may be confusing regular civil court with mental health court. That's a different ballgame altogether. It is very difficult to have someone committed. Britney's parents did not do this. Her psychiatrist did. It was her psychiatrist who call the police & arranged for her commitment.

People please - it is NOT easy in America to have someone involuntarily committed. Stop & think about how many medical malpractice lawsuits there would be if it were.

Britney's father is only in this position for 14 days. It's up on Valentines Day, if I remember correctly. At the time, the court will re-assess the situation.

The court-appointed lawyer was provided for Britney as part of her Patient Rights. Anyone interested in learning the process should do a Google search for California Welfare & Institutions Code Section 5250. It's a good way to understand how things work.



Posted by: Anonymous

someone told me today that she is in a padded room with a security guard hired by the parents being forced to take drugs. How can they force her to take thse drugs? They are making her take sleeping pills, anti agression pills and a variety of other pills. If she doesn't take them they force her. At one point threatning to inject her with a cocktail of meds to control her.. Isn't that against the law in the USA? I got this from a good source. How is this possible? I am told that once you are deemed disabled you lose all the right to say no to meds and they can even tie you down and force meds on you. Is Britney that sick? Is it right to do this to her? She is being tortured. I love her so much that it hurts me to think that her parents would allow this. I would think that somehow they could of handled this better.. Get better Britney.



Posted by: Anonymous

9:51

Sam said Britney was so out of it that she would strip naked and wander around outside lost and confused.

Do you really think she is ok to live her life without intervention? No she didn't commit a crime, but if left as is she would have died or killed someone else.



Posted by: Anonymous

9:47 us mag reports that sam was brought on the scene in the summmer...
He was new, but there



Posted by: HBL- Going Sane In An Insane World

Anon-
It's simple. She's not in her right mind and if someone doesn't make the right decisions for her, she is going to harm herself or someone else and be taken advantage of further.
If this didn't happen and she did end up harming someone people would be on the band wagon upset because no one did anything. There are laws intact for people who clearly can not function and make sane decisions to protect them pure and simple.
There areactually many states in fact where you can become award of the state and not released unless a family member consents to take care of you. So actualy, she's very lucky she is not in one of those states and that her father is desperately trying to help her. Even in a drug or alcohol intervention they generally recommend cutting off inances when the addictrefuses to get help in order to protect them and force them to get the help they need. If they don't have money to access they can't generally run away from cleaning up very long. This isn't very different from the norm. She has to have everything stripped from her so she can sit and finally be forced to get the help she clearly needs. Mental illness can hit anyone but getting help when you are this severely mental should never be a choice. You can't make a choice when you are not in your right mind.



Posted by: Anonymous

40 million? I thought she was worth alot more then that. is that everything?



Posted by: JS

9:53 Thank you, and yes, mental illness can be very hard to treat and can take years to even get a correct diagnosis. I'm very sorry for your loss. Sometimes people fear what they don't understand. Mental health awareness is very important and can save lives. God Bless.



Posted by: Chicago

9:58 Don't be alarmed by the thought of a padded room. That's merely for the patient's safety. The guard is a bodyguard - again, for Britney's protection because she's a high-profile celebrity. Without that guard, idiots like the X17 paps would be trying to slip in & we all know it.

Now that Britney's commitment has been escalated to a 5250 (from a 5150), yes they can force her to take medication to improve her stability.

This isn't a matter of Britney committing any crimes to have gotten herself in this position. This is a matter of psychiatrists making a determination that Britney does not possess the capability to be responsible for herself. Gravely Disabled is a very Serious diagnosis.

They're trying to keep her alive & help her get well. This isn't prison. This is pretty much the last stop before the cemetery. Britney fans should really be feeling relieved that this is happening. She has a much better chance of making it than Anna Nicole ever did.



Posted by: Instigator

Chicago-
Its sunny and cool here. The reason I know you have snow coming is cause it rained here yesterday. But we didn't get as much as they thought we would (of course)!

Everytime I hear about how much snow you easterners (anyone east of Nevada), are getting I am glad I moved out of NY...lol. Its hard to wear sandals and shovel snow at the same time.

But on a high note, its whale watching season here. So I think I know what I will do with my hubby for Valentine's Day. That would be a suprise for him. Then we can have a romantic dinner on the coast. Hmmm...time to start planning....



Posted by: Anonymous

I don't understand why it took so long for them to finally decide that she is Bipolar. Many people that are aware of the symptoms have been saying it for months and months. She was a classic case that has now reached *severe* Pretty sad.



Posted by: more in a bit...

When I was Britney's age. I was being verbally and physically abused by not only my boyfriend but my BOSS. I tried to commtt suicide and after coming out of the coma I volunarily went into the psych ward...

My doctor never bothered to show up the whole bloody time. Another doctor came to me and said you have not seen your doctor do you want a doctor? And I said sure and you can be my doctor.

The next night I find out my dog is in the pound and I get permission to leave with my friend to go get him. When I get there it is closed. So I phone the hospital and I say I will come back the next morning, my friend is with me and then I can get the dog out before I go back to the hospital. They say ok. Three minutes later a cop shows up at the door and I am handcuffed and now being committed against my will for trying to escape! I am stripped of my clothing and thrown in a padded cell for three days... it was a long weekend. It fucked me up and I would NOT talk. On the Moday after the holiday the shrink chats with me and I am let back into a normal room.



Posted by: JS

Oh Instigator. You just brought a tear to my eye. You have no idea, just how right you are. I can't tell you what it means to me for someone to understand that. I don't get that very often, so please, let me thank you. God Bless You for understanding. That really means the world to me.



Posted by: Chicago

Oh Instigator, I forgot! Whale watching season! sigh....

I used to go out every year. I need to take my husband out. He's never seen it. And no, I wouldn't recommend shoveling snow in sandals - or shorts. :(

I have to admit though that I love the Caribbean. There aren't many islands I haven't been to. I like it HOT!



Posted by: How sad

after all the poking fun at her, name calling, etc, I feel guilty that I made fun of her :( Can't believe she's actually crazy and this fucked up :( With that in mind, I think I'm going easy on her from now on. Never really was a fan of her music, but I sure miss that spunky lovable side of her. I wonder what, when and why things REALLY went wrong? Everyone has their theory, but no one really knows. I truly wonder if she never was in the industry, if she's be like this today? I'm starting to think that child stars are just plain doomed :( Sorry I ever mocked you, Britney.



Posted by: Chicago

I was just reading some of the earlier posts & found one that I though was hilarious. It's the 8:23 post if anyone is interested. I love dry humor.



Posted by: Anonymous

x17 are fraudsters and criminals. The state should repossess the proceeds of their crimes, including their houses in the Palisades Riviera.

They are also cheese-eating surrender monkeys.



Posted by: Anonymous

The psych ward was a terrible place to be. People were screaming in the middle of the night. Everybody was a stranger just doing their job. You had to eat on a little school desk and were chained to it untill they put you back in the padded room. I did't even have anything to read. A mattress on the floor and a pillow. You didn't even get a blanket!!! I was treated like a criminal.

At one point an inmate gives me a book. I am back in a regular room and doing the sessions. This one girl says she was gang raped. She is the one screaming her head off at night and the one that gave me the book. One day I am with my boyfriend visiting. She sees him and freaks. Thn a shrink talks with me and tells me that she thinks my boyfriend is one of the guys that gang raped her. And I say like hell... he has done shitty things but he didn't do that... andthe shrink is really pressing it. I go back to my room a day later I am reading the book.. and guess what the exact same rape scene she is describing in one of her sessions is in the BOOK! So I take it to the shrink... and show her... she is pissed and snarky with me. I figured this girl could not tell us what really happened to her and she was using the story as a cover... but her subconscous wanted to tell the truth so she... picked me to tell her story.. it is not acoincidence that I am the one she gave the book to and then freaked about my boyfriend...

So the psych ward sucks big time.. hope Britney can go somewhere beautiful with a fulltime staff of medical people to help her recove... the sych ward can fuck you up wors.. but I survived.. :-)



Posted by: Anonymous

there are approx. 18,995 islands on this planet. you must really get around.

some ppl are so fucking stupid trying to sound so worldy spouting bullshit like that. lol



Posted by: Anonymous

18,995 islands on this planet. you must get around plenty.



Posted by: Anonymous

hahahahahahahaha. i thought the same thing when i saw that. what a douche!



Posted by: Instigator

JS-

I am glad that I can be supportive to you. Its easy to lose sight of how many other people are effected by someone's disease when all you see if the chaos surrounding that one person. But so many others are just as effected. As a parent, I can't imagine what a sense of loss and fear, anger, denial, all the different stages of grief. I don't need to tell you. I imagine you must go through them to some extent everytime your son is hospitalized. Maybe not as intensely as the first time, but still, those feelings must still linger.

Here is what I believe JS, its not much, but it gets me through - everything happens for a reason. We may not always know the reason, but we have to have faith that there is a reason. That and a little bit of dark humor get me through. I'll get off my soapbox now....



Posted by: Anonymous

ppl with no lives have to tell the world how great their life is. so sad!



Posted by: Chicago

It's getting late her & I have lots to do in the morning. Hope everyone has a great evening. G'nite!



Posted by: jen

10:23
I know what you mean -- IT'S NOT FUNNY ANYMORE. Sounds corny.. but I just want to hug her. You think she knows shes crazy? i cant imagine being her sister or family member. all i'd do is worry and want my old sis. Brit, theres alot of people wishing you well! youve done some stupid shit in the past but deep down your a good person. this is just a shell of yourself. poor girl
hope you come out on a clean slate and keep it clean



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

salutations room! :)

before i go any further... 'GATOR' is 2 syllables short for 'INSTIGATOR' to avoid confucion! ;) *WiNk!*



Posted by: Anonymous

dark humour is theraputic??? since when?



Posted by: Anonymous

how could one person ever go to 18 thousand islands? is that possible?



Posted by: Anonymous

that's alot of traveling you do there.



Posted by: Annonymous

This loser is NOT her new attorney. She is insane, and, as such, cannot form the legal standing to hire/fire anyone. That's why there is a conservator; he/she alone can do this.

How hollywood of this loser to not only make a statement about a client he doesn't have, but to disagree with a mental professional's assessment of Twitney. He has no expertise or any knowledge or standing to make any judgement, yet like an arrogant attorney (who likes to hear himself talk, no doubt), he's issuing opinions. Grow up, little man, and let the medical & mental professionals (who are trained in this area, unlike you) do their jobs.



Posted by: Anonymous

Want to know how much of a dumb ass Chicago is? On a different thread they said they didn't see Britney ever act in a manic manner. DUH what do you think driving around at all hours is? What do you think smiling without a care about losing her kids is? What do you think smiling as she is being driven to be committed is? Mania is an euphoric state with tons of energy. You go none stop and think everything in your life is wonderful even when it's complete shit.

Britney is the definition of Manic.



Posted by: Instigator

Shush Justin...lol



Posted by: Anonymous

manic = the nutjob that never gets off of these sites posting like a rabid dog in heat.



Posted by: Rex Rover King, Attorney-at-Paw

X17 - I have been retained as London's legal representative, and I must insist that you cease and desist at once from making disparaging, deprecatory, derogatory and/or dyslogistically defamitory statements about my canine client.



Posted by: Anonymous

Say what you like. Sam was the one that was with her the most and it will be his information about what she was and was not doing that will be very helpful to the shrink.

Anyone know why the state has to pay a seperate shrink to evaulate her? What is wrong with Dr. Nodel's assessment? And why would she not have been able to tell the court today wether or not Britney would be able to understand her legal situation and okay the lawyer? And you can be very intelligent... andunderstand but still be considered a risk to yurself.



Posted by: Anonymous

blah, blah, blah! shut the fuck up asshole!



Posted by: Hubba Bubba

Adam is not a real attorney. He's an impostor. His taste in ties is where he slipped up. A real attorney has the fashion sense of poop.



Posted by: Sam The Leech

Sam's parents were indited for gas gouging at their gas stations.. So stealing runs in their family...



Posted by: Anonymous

LONG, BUT PLEASE READ
Sam,
I know you sit on the computer all day long and you will read this, and I know you make anonymous comments on all the websites that talk about you. We talked for a few weeks and it was great that Britney sang happy birthday to me and it was great getting to meet her, but the whole reason for you and I talking for 3 weeks was to get an idea of how you really treat Britney behind closed doors. I would have never thought the letter I posted in December about you would have gone this far as to Blender contacting me for Danny's story, but you did serious damage to Danny and his well being and I needed Britney and the world to see that. It's great to see Michael making the media rounds to tell it like it really is. I stand behind Jamie and Lynn 100% and I believe you will try to redeem yourself after everything that has happened and you will make a public speech on some television show and I want the public to really think about what you've done before you can inject them with you manipulation.
You have been in Britney's life for over a year and in that time, what good have you done for Britney's career, her image, her future. Your supposed to be her manager, friend, etc, are the actions you and Britney have displayed for months helping her, I think not. A real manager would not be spending all his time taking his client around pet stores, gas stations, breaking laws all over Los Angeles. Come on Sam, you are the parasite that Britney and Danny have been infected with. Its only time before Britney realizes that, she just needs help to understand that. I helped Danny get rid of his disease, and he's a much better person now. You prey on the weak and vulnerable, then with your master manipulation skills you inject your virus into them and they become your puppets.
I'm posting this letter to you here because I know that you'll see it and I also want the public to see it as well.
Ken Dungey BITTENANDBOUND.COM HAS MY TEXT MASSAGES FROM SAM



Posted by: HBL- Going Sane In An Insane World

Anon- 10:44
Good question.I think perhaps it was because her attorneys were contesting the conservatorship so they want a second opinion and the only opinion that hasnothing to gain I guess would be a state one?
BTW Hi Instigator! Whale watching is a great idea btw!
Hi JGlad.. thanks for rubbing it in that my team lost JK. How did you know it was team? lol



Posted by: Anonymous

Fact is, Britney never had $100M but no one will listen to anyone who says otherwise. That estimate was made by a recording industry wank who just added up every dollar she made from CDs and other products in her entire life and then he added in the value of her 5 properties that she had bought since being in the industry. Well, you can't own $20M in property free and clear and still have every dollar you earned. she spends $8.4M a year and she hasn't done anything to make any significant money in years. Do the math.



Posted by: Anonymous

Its only time before Britney realizes that, she just needs help to understand that. I helped Danny get rid of his disease, and he's a much better person now. You prey on the weak and vulnerable, then with your master manipulation skills you inject your virus into them and they become your puppets.
I'm posting this letter to you here because I know that you'll see it and I also want the public to see it as well.
Ken Dungey BITTENANDBOUND.COM HAS MY TEXT MASSAGES FROM SAM



Posted by: Instigator

10:44 -

Just as attorneys specialize in different types of law, psychologists/psychiatrists also specialize in different types of their fields. Although a civil attorney can practice in any area of law, you really wouldn't want to hire him if you are facing murder charges. Get my drift?



Posted by: Chicago

10:37: I'm back, couldn't sleep - and OH WHAT A SURPRISE (not).

From what I've been told by a psychiatrist, manic symptoms of bipolar disorder have to do with MOODS, not necessarily ACTIONS. We're talking euphoric happiness verses extreme sadness.

And what I said was that I haven't seen any euphoric happiness in Britney. You can certainly disagree, but calling me a dumbass in the process only reflects on your poor mental state. Are you so insecure that you shun intellectual debate? Uh huh.

Of course, we're all aware that you're the Expert, right? You don't debate, you just name call.

Driving doesn't have anything to do with it you flaming idiot. And yeah - I know who you are - even if you are too chickenshit to sign with your moniker. Writing styles are pretty consistent with individuals.



Posted by: Andrea Wilde

Hello 'attention'. I am Andrea Wilde, the owner of bittenandbound.com. My site is NOT a virus and you, Sam Lutfi, may be fooling others, by trying to discredit my website, but since I OWN it, and I'M THE ONE WHO POSTED THE STORY, I happen to know it is NOT a virus. So why not return my phone calls instead of texting me and telling me the story is a fake? If you want to refute it, I have given you plenty of opportunities. I have received emails from several other people with threatening text messages from you that I will be posting in the next few days. If you want to tell your side, then quit being a coward and call me back instead of leaving comments saying my site is a virus.



Posted by: Instigator

Howdy HBL-

How ya doing?



Posted by: HBL- Going Sane In An Insane World

Andrea Wilde,

Okay, I'll bite. Can you please answer for me where Sam's wife Angela is and why she didn't finish divorcing him?
Did she go into hiding or something? lol



Posted by: Anonymous

Hey Sam you should get some rest a bunch of your old friends are hitting the airwaves tomorrow and telling the world what you used to do to Britney..Your a sad little man....



Posted by: HBL- Going Sane In An Insane World

Instigator,
I am good and you? I have missed seeing you here!

WB Chicago!



Posted by: Chicago

10:27 & 10:28 you're right - I should have said the major islands. Not worldly at all, just happened to be lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time a long time ago. Friend had a sailboat. Still, it was nice.



Posted by: Andrea

Sam I'm doing a radio show in the morning. Anything you'd like me to pass along to the listeners? ;) You've got my number.



Posted by: Andrea

Ummm "Sam" don't you mean your PARENTS own a bunch of gas stations. Excuse me, but exactly how does your parents having millions make YOU a millionaire? One minute you claim to be Britney's 'manager' and the next you say you make no money off her and are just a 'friend'? Which is it "Sam"? Come on, you've been posting all day.



Posted by: Anonymous

Who is this Andrea Wilde person & why is she mad at Sam?



Posted by: Nightowl

I have been to Bitten and Bound a million times and never gotten a virus or anything malicious at all. The story is one everyone should read about Sam. I believe every word of it and there is evidence on so many levels that what was said is true.

Go there and actually read the story about Sam and see his text messages. then read the rest of the stuff about him. There are no spyware or viruses on the site.

Sheesh, Sam is a raving lunatic and very desperate.



Posted by: Instigator

Hey Chicago-

If I may interject myself into the manic conversation...manic episodes do not always equate to extreme happiness. Some people have ended up killing themselves when manic because they believe that they are incapable of feeling pain therefore they can fly out of 10 story windows. (Just one example). Manic episodes can also manifest as extreme irritability. It is also observable as behavior as manic people tend to do things such as excessive shopping, inappropriate sexual behavior (think of the white shirt that Britney wore to the mall), basically any extreme behavior.

Its not just the moods that make this disease so notable, the behaviors really are the attention getters.

Sorry if I stuck my nose in too far.



Posted by: Anonymous

Sam is posting on every site he can find that Bitten and Bound is a virus. Andrea is the owner and she's fixing to rip Sammy a new asshole.



Posted by: Anonymous

Ken Dungey is posting the above letter all over the net. This is gettin ugly yall.



Posted by: Anonymous

Andrea and Ken FUCK OFF!!! You are just as bad as Sam. Pu.shing yourself into the limelight for money. Really FUCK OFF.. you are the worst kind of people. I hope he sues your ass off.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

i got distracted... :) i'm watching 'DRAWN TOGETHER' - & how funny is this - the episode is about clara's retarded cousin 'BLAH' who is so beautiful that captain hero ends up sleeping w/her... and he says in his defense when clara get's mad - "BLAH's AN ADULT CAPABLE OF MAKING HER OWN DECISIONS!" lol!

i was like awwww!! it's britney & adnan! =P



Posted by: Instigator

I am doing well HBL. I took a few days off to spend time with the hubby. Did the date night thing. It was nice to not have to cut up anyone's food or wipe anyone's face after the meal...lol.

Oh lord, apparently the Catholic Church wants to train more priests to perform exorcisms. Just what we need....

On a note of irony, Chicago...I used to live in St. Croix. I was a child when my parents moved us there. We lived there for two years.



Posted by: Chicago

Hi Instigator! You can always stick your nose in; you don't name call unless someone attacks you first. :)

Earlier today we were discussing this bipolar diagnosis. To be frank, I don't trust Lynne Spears & the spin she puts on everything. Another poster brought in another disorder with symptoms which could also fit Britney. A neighbor of ours is a psychiatrist & I had called her the other day for her take on the situation. Like most of the others, she said it would be impossible to diagnose Britney without several sessions, but she did offer several options to the type of behavior.

Also to note, my youngest son is bipolar - which I had not mentioned. His behavior during his cycles before he was diagnosed were very different from what I've seen in Britney. I really don't see any happiness in this girl at all - let alone euphoria.

I don't know if we'll ever find out exactly what Britney's diagnosis is. We're all guessing really. I just think we can converse without starting up the name calling or the high school crap.



Posted by: Anonymous

I've been there too Nightowl. Andrea is just trying to protect her site. Sam is spreading lies to keep people from seeing the text messages. He's been a busy little beaver today.



Posted by: Anonymous

Andrea just want to say I think it is great you are exposing Sam for the slime ball he really is. Keep up the good work.



Posted by: Anonymous

Well maybe someone should commit Sam if he is a raving lunatic. Now that would be a new twist. They can lock him upin the same psych ward as Brit and then she can have good company and the lawyers can squawk about the restraining order over his right to get critical medical attention.

This Ken and Andrea crap strikes me as boring Malibu brats with nothing better to do than harass each other. Go work for a charity you self absorbed spoiled shit diturbers.



Posted by: HBL- Going Sane In An Insane World

Aw Instigator I am sure it was a well deserved date night! Glad you both got to get out and have a nice time!



Posted by: Terrie

Britney has Mixed Bipolar Disorder which is the toughest BP types to treat. With MBP, you are depressed and manic at the same time. You generally don't get the euphoric, wonderful highs nor do you get the crippling suicidal depression.

You have all of it at once. Your mind is reeling. You can't sit still. Gotta go, gotta go, no need for sleep, I'm the sexiest person alive, I hate myself, I'm scared, I'm sad, I love people, I hate the paps, I love the paps, All I need is a new car/clothes/a new house and I will feel much better, I should end it all, I love you, I hate you, I'm ugly, I'm so beautiful, No one loves me, everyone loves me, I'm bored, gotta go somewhere, They can't tell me what to do, I rule the world, I wish someone would take care of me, why did people turn on me, I am the boss, I'm lost, I don't need your help, I'm not tired, I am exhausted...

And on and on and on.

I know this because I have a family member with MBP and it is so incredibly hard to treat. But it IS treatable. The problem is many people who do get treated feel normal and then stop the meds since they feel they don't need them. The result is a huge episode that sends them to the hospital. It often happens over and over again. Britney will need someone to come there and SEE her take her meds for a long time.

Luckily she can afford the best and should employ the best. Once on the right meds, she could be stable and perform and even be a mother again. But only if she realizes that not taking her meds will result in disaster.



Posted by: Chicago - (I get to wait for more snow)

Instigator - you lived in St. Croix! Oh mon dieu - you lucky duck! And now you get to watch whales migrating.

sigh.....



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

i just looked over the previous comments... i just drastically brought down this threads IQ, huh? lol!



Posted by: Instigator

I agree with you Chicago. I don't trust the spin from any of them, I don't think we will ever know what is going on with her, and we don't need to resort to name calling.

I would venture to guess that there are probably multiple issues going on with her which is why you can't diagnose someone based on snapshots or short videoclips you see of them.

I am sorry to hear about your son's diagnosis. I do hope he is doing well. I am sure you read my post to JS earlier, so I won't retype it. I am awed by your courage and strength.



Posted by: Terrie

Britney has Mixed Bipolar Disorder which is the toughest BP types to treat. With MBP, you are depressed and manic at the same time. You generally don't get the euphoric, wonderful highs nor do you get the crippling suicidal depression.

You have all of it at once. Your mind is reeling. You can't sit still. Gotta go, gotta go, no need for sleep, I'm the sexiest person alive, I hate myself, I'm scared, I'm sad, I love people, I hate the paps, I love the paps, All I need is a new car/clothes/a new house and I will feel much better, I should end it all, I love you, I hate you, I'm ugly, I'm so beautiful, No one loves me, everyone loves me, I'm bored, gotta go somewhere, They can't tell me what to do, I rule the world, I wish someone would take care of me, why did people turn on me, I am the boss, I'm lost, I don't need your help, I'm not tired, I am exhausted...

And on and on and on.

I know this because I have a family member with MBP and it is so incredibly hard to treat. But it IS treatable. The problem is many people who do get treated feel normal and then stop the meds since they feel they don't need them. The result is a huge episode that sends them to the hospital. It often happens over and over again. Britney will need someone to come there and SEE her take her meds for a long time.

Luckily she can afford the best and should employ the best. Once on the right meds, she could be stable and perform and even be a mother again. But only if she realizes that not taking her meds will result in disaster.



Posted by: Anonymous

well, this little "argument" should send some traffic to Bitten and Bound.



Posted by: Anonymous

Ken Dungey will be posting the full story of his involvement, including all text messages, on his website which should be up and running in the next few days: homerspizza.com/SamLutfi



Posted by: Chicago

Instigator, thanks for your kind words. He's doing pretty good, thanks. My (enabler) ex-husband & I battled for years. He was in denial that anything was wrong with our son. He was a classic "Disney Dad". There were times I literally wished my ex dead. It was out of frustration & trying to get help for our son. We get along better now though.

I started watching this out of concern for Britney's children. I was pretty disgusted with Britney's behavior, but as she grew more & more incompetent I wondered if something were really wrong. I mean, she was Dirty for pete's sake. She looked like she wasn't bathing or caring about herself.

I'm relieved that they have her where she's at. At least they can try to get her in a place in her head where she wants to help herself. Those boys need their mom to be as healthy as she can be.



Posted by: Anonymous

According to Ken Dungey, Lutfi often brags about the control he has over Britney. On January 19, Ken invited Sam to his birthday party. Ken explained what happened in an email to Bitten and Bound:

Sam called on the night I had my birthday party on Saturday the 19th, he had Britney sing Happy Birthday to me then she got on the phone and talked to me for a minute. Then Sam wanted to display his power he has against her.
Sam said “watch this, see how much control I have over her” and he said” Britney, I’m going to go to Orange County to Ken’s for his Birthday party” Sam always held the phone up so I could hear whatever Britney was saying. Anyways, I heard Britney say ok, let me get my jacket, then Sam whispered and chuckled and said to me “watch this” then he said ” no Britney, I’m going to go by myself, she went crazy starting to cry and said :” no Sam please don’t leave me here alone” and she was at his knees and he was laughing saying ” get up off the floor bitch.” then she ran out of the room crying and yelling.
These are the things I want to get out so everyone can see how he really treats her behind closed doors.



Posted by: Instigator

Ok, I need to go to bed because I have two little boys who will effectively cause me to need a straightjacket and a psychward if I don't have enough sleep to deal with the terrible two's and mr. I'm teething...lol.

Night all...*kiss from 'Gator* lol



Posted by: Anonymous

When asked by Ken during one phone conversation how much money he actually makes, Lutfi allegedly replied “More money than most American CEOs.”



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

nite 'gator'! *WAVES!



Posted by: HOW ANNOYING

YOU PEOPLE IN HERE "DIAGNOSING" BRITNEY, IE, SOMEONE YOU'VE NEVER MET OR KNOW PERSONALLY ANYTHING ABOUT SOUND SO F-U-C-K-I-N-G STUPID. SURE, YOU CAN HAVE AN OPINION OR "GUESS" AS TO WHAT'S REALLY WRONG WITH HER. BUT IF YOU READ THESE POSTS, IT'S ABSOLUTELY INSANE. HAVE YOU SEEN HER CHARTS? HAVE YOU TALKED TO HER DOCTORS? HAVE YOU INTERVIEWED HER TO COME TO THESE CONCLUSIONS? N-O-P-E
YES, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH HER. WHAT EXACTLY IT IT, N-O-N-E OF US KNOW. JUST REMEMBER THAT. EVERYONE ALWAYS THINKS THEY'RE SO "IN THE KNOW" WHEN IT COMES TO BRITNEY SPEARS... BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.



Posted by: Anonymous

What is bittenandbound? Sounds like an S & M site.



Posted by: HBL- Going Sane In An Insane World

Nite Instigator!



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

i disagree w/almost everyone here too...

i think her main problem is being a SPOILED LITTLE BITCH. the 'insanity', whatever the fuck that is, just exacerbates her 'TRUE' nature.



Posted by: Anonymous

your right about that site. that's exactly what it is. A LINK TO SMUT!



Posted by: Anonymous

sAM tEXT mESSAGES LA Rag Mag

jAN 19TH

Been hostage here for nine months. lol See how she gets when I wanna leave Lol

JAN 19TH
Ha, not gonna run into danny right now. Don't need anymore drama in my life right now



Posted by: Anonymous

BS, It is not. It is an entertainment site. It has nothing to do with S&M.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

hey HBL, do you know that you're still BRANDI NAVARRE from 20 years ago...? lol!



Posted by: wtf?

February 5, 2008 12:01 AM
Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

You're a dumb shit. You truly think the top professionals in this world have locked Britney Spears in a mental ward because she's "A SPOILED LITTLE BITCH"?????? LOL!!! Sorry, deary, there's MUCH more to it than that. Thank God you're not a doctor or psychiatrist!



Posted by: HBL- Going Sane In An Insane World

LMAO JGlad I didn't know the quality of pics 20 years ago *eyeroll*

Man people are stupid.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

NO ILLITERATE TWAT! that's not what i said. obviously, you're too stupid to R-E-A-D.



Posted by: Disgusted by the situation

The master plan is in place. Kevin drove Brit to great grief by taking her children. Mommy Dearest and Red Eyed Devil Dad have had her commited for the crime of acting/dressing like a skank. We'll never see her again. They will keep on locking her up every 30 days, and/or the meds they forcibly inject will cause a heart attack and death. No wonder the showbiz sites were showing her last pictures. The family and Kevin will get all the money. Fuck families. It's all about the money. For all the justice in American law, she might as well be a Muslin woman in Saudi Arabia, Iran, whatever. Padded cell, full control by male relatives, locked room,
Death. They are all patriachial societies and a woman that does not tow the line, gets put down, hard.



Posted by: Anonymous

Disgusted. Gez you are depressed. Prozac?



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

oh & of course *i* am BRANDI too... *BIGGER EYE ROLL* i think it was yesterday that some DUMB BRITARD said to go look at 'MY' picture & they gave directions to YOURS...

oh hey, did you notice my new pic? i dedicated it to my JTARDS! you know, the WHINY LITTLE BITCHES that i *OWN*.



Posted by: HBL- Going Sane In An Insane World

You KILL me LMAO

Aw they will never go away! They are like some atomic surving cockroaches lol. They runaway to regroup and scury on back lol.



Posted by: Anonymous

JTard, misspells Brandy in an attempt make us believe JTard is not Brandy. Lame.

Hi, Brandy, er JTard ... ;) ** WAVES **



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

disgusted is a CRAZY MANHATER - much like crazy annie fat fannie.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

if i was their britarded mother i'd give them all MERCY KILLS. they are too stupid to live.

cockaroaches is a great analogy for them. so is - dumb as a rock...

stubborn as a mule...

ugly as sin...

i could go on all night, couldn't i? :)



Posted by: 2 Weeks Does Not A Sane Britney Make

What's really gonna cause people to bitch is in 2 weeks when they do not release her, Jamie will have to get a permanent LPS Conservatorship to keep her in there way longer. She will lose a lot more rights then:

The right to possess a driver’s license.
The right to enter into contracts.
The right to vote.
The right to refuse or consent to mental health treatment.
The right to refuse or consent to medical treatment for an existing condition.
The right to possess firearms; and
The right to make medical treatment decisions.

Yep the fun is just beginning, folks.



Posted by: Bit Bit, my ass!

re: 10:42 PM - London is going to need a good lawyer because Britney changed her will and is leaving everything to her dogs!!!



Posted by: Sunnyday please visit me on myspace.com/sunnydayagain thanks

ETs , spirits?
The very same so powerless , so so stinking dead shit .
No Thanks!
Love :)



Posted by: Sunnyday please visit me on myspace.com/sunnydayagain thanks

My soul that inner light , that fragile , innocent child in me .
So Precious

Worth to live for , worth to care for.
Love :)



Posted by: Sunnyday please visit me on myspace.com/sunnydayagain thanks

AStral Space?
The very place where all spiritual problems begins.
No Thanks!
Love :)



Posted by: Anonymous

JTard refers to "my JTARDS" in an attempt at deflection. I don't think so JTard. You and you alone are the JTARD.



Posted by: Anonymous

she needs just her family! los4ers like sam adn adnan need to go away



Posted by: Still shaking my head

Oh my goodness! The guy was hired by T & T on SAMS's word. He even admitted in court he could not state his sources as to Britney's agreement with him plus as I recall, in reality, he did not speak to her. The "lucid" coment came to him via the "sources". Hard to pull the wool over the court commissioner's eyes even if X17 accepts bogus facts.

This girl is sick. Her family let it go on long enough. Kevin put a stop to the boys being in her wacky world and would have been ripped apart in the press had he not done the right and responsible thing. Same thing with James and Lynne Spears.

The moves these people made were dramatic, yes, but what choice did Britney give them? Absolutely NONE! She has been out of control for the better part of over a year...or more, if you ask me. She had all sorts of problems with motherhood right from the start because she is hard headed and always right.

I have my fingers crossed her family and Kevin drag her kisking and screaming into growing up, finally entering adulthood, and hopefully, into motherhood. If not, she deserves anything she reaps at at this point, it is the looney bin! And, yes, I sincerely hope she gets the medical help she so obviously is in need of for the long term.



Posted by: Anonymous

estamos artos de britney spears please x17online we are tired of britney



Posted by: Shitney the Ditch Pig

HAHA BULLSHIT! The Commish said that there is no way that Shitney hired him. He is not her lawyer.



Posted by: mssykaye

Who is Ken Dungy?



Posted by: Anonymous

Last posted article: Yesterday at 5:40 PM.

How lame is that!



Posted by: Jamie Spears is a God!

Jamie Spears has more style in his little finger than that Streisand dude has in his entire body. Jamie's style is called "real, authentic, true, honest, here for the right reasons,I aint here to impress the cameras but to save my daughter!."



Posted by: Anonymous

x17,why you don´t just accept that britney really is mentally sick and needs hospitalizations, not you



Posted by: Anonymous

BOYCOTT X17

If they have their way, Britney will be dead!

That is the only explanation for their inaccurate and biased reporting about her on a daily basis.

BOYCOTT X17ONLINE!



Posted by: Anonymous

BOYCOTT X17

If they have their way, Britney will be dead!

That is the only explanation for their inaccurate and biased reporting about her on a daily basis.

THEY ARE PAYING THESE PEOPLE OFF (ADNAN, OSAMA) and they don't care about Britney, they just care about getting publicity.

BOYCOTT X17ONLINE!



Posted by: Anonymous

X17 idiot "editor" - you write like a hack and your observations are not clever at all. The fact is that his suit is one size too big and not tailored at all. He looks like a rube. Get a new job, shitmop.



Posted by: JUST ME

he is HOT!



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

JTard refers to "my JTARDS" in an attempt at deflection. I don't think so JTard. You and you alone are the JTARD.

February 5, 2008 1:42 AM - Anonymous

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WRONG JTARD!!! :) you KNOW that when the term JTARD was coined MONTHS AGO, it was in reference to YOU & your OBSESSION OVER ME! - SO *YOU* are the one 'DEFLECTING'!!

haha!! the JTARD is EMBARRASED because he's a BIGGER JTARD than BRITARD!! haha!! *POINTS & LAUGHS AT YOUR STUPIDITY*



Posted by: x17 SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

x17 sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Britneychoosesdeath

Jglad? Why don't you just say your peace about the article or picture that is posted and leave it at that. Why must you constantly post on other people OPINIONS?
As we all know, opinions are like assholes, we all have one. YOU, my dear, should stop all the Britard Hate and let people feel the way they want to feel....express what they want to express in support of or against a very sick woman.
You have the right to your opinion, but leave the personal shots at those you don't agree with on your myspace page or somewhere your "fans" will follow you to.
I'm not a hater of ANYBODY, but taking low blow personal shots at people for no reason other than to get to read what you write, is wrong....I don't care who you are.



Posted by: LJ

X17 LET'S BREAK IT DOWN.......First Adam Streisand IS NOT Brit's attorney!! She's mentally NOT able to hire an attorney!!!

Second, we KNOW WHY you hope this is so......

Adam Streisand = Trope and Trope
Trope and Trope = Osama Lutfi
Osama Lutfi = exclusive info to X17!!!

You people are SICK AND NOT OUT FOR BRITNEY'S HEALTH AND WELL BEING!!!



Posted by: This part is optional!

Jglad? Why don't you just say your peace about the article or picture that is posted and leave it at that. Why must you constantly post on other people OPINIONS?

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I second that. And just because the dude above has made a comment about you doesn't mean he's "obsessed" with you. But I'm sure that accusation will be made anyways.

Ah well...makes for good entertainment, I guess.



Posted by: blablabla

Ahhh, X17 once again you get the facts wrong...
...he wasn't denied being her conservator (her choices still haven't been revealed)
...HE WAS NOT RECOGNIZED AS HER LAWYER BY THE JUDGE BECAUSE SHE'S NOT CAPABLE OF CHOOSING ONE RIGHT NOW!!!!

That's ok X17. We know you lie just to get more keyclicks.

JUST WAIT to see how high the keyclicks go when you and Osama get the legal thumbscrews applied!

Hey Adam, I think I just saw an ambulance drive by. Go get it boy. Go get it!!!



Posted by: New York, New York

Jamie Spears has more style in his little finger than that Streisand dude has in his entire body. Jamie's style is called "real, authentic, true, honest, here for the right reasons,I aint here to impress the cameras but to save my daughter!."

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Good call!



Posted by: SHUT DOWN X17!!!!!!!!!

SHUT DOWN X17!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: LJ

1:08 AM I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT!!! Britney DOES NOT need to be released in 2 weeks!!! She'll just go back to the same manic behavior!! Driving to every gas station in town, Starbucks, Red Bull, Osama Bin Lutfi, buying some more new cars and houses.......all of this until she is DEAD!!!

She is A VERY DEFIANT PERSON!!!! Keep her locked up for a year!!!! Maybe by then, she come back down to reality!!



Posted by: Jamie Spears is a God

Anon you are right. For such a big, high powered, put me on TV for my 15 minutes of fame lawyer, his suit is atrocious. Adam's attire and hair especially are not nearly as attractive as Jamies. Mr. Streisand's hair especially, reminds me of roadkill, a dead skunk to be exact. The pointy shoes were handy downs from the Wicked Witch of the West, I am sure. Adam's outfit screams, "Hey look at me I'm such a media whore & sexy wit my bottom button undone." Jamie, on the otherhand with his reading classes and natural, casual chic look is smokin'hot.



Posted by: Julie

He is NOT her lawyer.

As usual, X17 = ureliable.



Posted by: Jamie Spears is a God

Anon you are right. For such a big, high powered, put me on TV for my 15 minutes of fame lawyer, his suit is atrocious. Adam's attire and hair especially are not nearly as attractive as Jamies. Mr. Streisand's hair especially, reminds me of roadkill, a dead skunk to be exact. The pointy shoes were handy downs from the Wicked Witch of the West, I am sure. Adam's outfit screams, "Hey look at me I'm such a media whore & sexy wit my bottom button undone." Jamie, on the otherhand with his reading classes and natural, casual chic look is smokin'hot.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

You have the right to your opinion, but
taking low blow personal shots at people for no reason other than to get to read what you write, is wrong...

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shouldn't you be telling that to your DUMB FUCK JTARDED BRETHEREIN who are always spouting DISGUSTING & RIDICULOUS BULLSHIT like -

- i am brandi navarre
- i am a paid blogger
- i am everyone here
- i am a pedophile
- engage in incest
- perversions
- homosexuality
- ageist comments...

YOUR OUTRIGHT LIES GO ON & ON & YOU BRITARDED DUMB FUCKS KNOW IT!!

the next time *YOU* even *THINK* about wanting to address *ME*, SHOVE IT UP YOUR HYPOCRITICAL BRITARDED ASSES INSTEAD, MMMKAY?



Posted by: CJ

Sam called Britney over the weekend and that has been verified. Suddenly "she" hired a lawyer. Think about this. How in the hell would she, going through all she is, be lucid enough to get a phone book, look up lawyers, pick one, call him (on a weekend) and ask him to come there? Even if she supposedly called Tropw and Trope's office (on a weekend), it seems a LITTLE far fetched. Sam called, said Britney wants a lawyer and that he just spoke to her and she is lucid and furious, and it went from there. My God that guy will not give up. Why is he still tormenting her? He needs to go away now. Or be locked up in jail. Or have the shit kicked out of him. Or all three.



Posted by: This part is optional!

JGlad, you're missing the point of what "Britneychoosesdeath" is saying. Read again.



Posted by: Anonymous

britney has constitutional rights just like all the rest of us. what exactly did she do that warranted all this excessive force?



Posted by: Anonymous

i wonder if they will give her electroshock therapy? they did it to my neighbor , (he was breaking into other houses in the neighborhood, not taking anything by the way) but he was like a vegetable after they did it to him, like a mellow little mouse



Posted by: Anonymous

She has her father to take care of her finances. She doesn't need this well dressed clown. There's no excessive force here either. The woman hadn't slept in a week because she's mentally ill and needs therapy. She has a doctor now and should only worry about getting well by talking only to her doctor and family.



Posted by: MissyK

...in britney's mind *excessive force* would consist of telling her NO...



Posted by: Not a huge loss, really

Of course they have to force meds on her. How else will she calm down? She's so violent, she could hurt herself. This woman is history. She will NEVER be sane. She's a goner. And we watched it happen.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

JGlad, you're missing the point of what "Britneychoosesdeath" is saying. Read again.

February 5, 2008 6:13 AM - This part is optional!

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no FUCKTARD, i understood YOUR BRITARDED hypocraZY perfectly. *YOU* are the DUMB FUCK who needs to READ AGAIN.

you're FULL OF SHIT. *YOU* i am addressing *YOU* specifially right now. :) *YOU*.

YOU JTARDED DUMB FUCKS POST MORE *LIES* & PERVERSIONS ABOUT 'ME' - SOMEONE YOU'VE NEVER MET NOR WILL EVER HAVE THE PLEASURE OF MEETING - THAN YOU DO YOUR FALSE SHITNEY IDOL.

*YOU* JTARDS ARE PATHETICALLY OBSESSED - DON'T PRETEND OTHERWISE because YOU ARE FOOLING NO ONE!!



Posted by: This part is optional!

no FUCKTARD, i understood YOUR BRITARDED hypocraZY perfectly. *YOU* are the DUMB FUCK who needs to READ AGAIN.

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Thanks for my daily morning laugh. Keep it coming! :)



Posted by: JC

britney has constitutional rights just like all the rest of us. what exactly did she do that warranted all this excessive force?
February 5, 2008 6:13 AM
Posted by: Anonymous
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When someone is mentally ill and cannot take care of themselves or make rational, sound decisions, someone has to do that for the person until they get well. In Britney's case, she clearly has been making impulsive, rash decisions for a while. She very badly needs help or she will end up dead. Plain as that. She also needs her assets protected while she is unable to do that herself. So someone is doing just that. Making sure the Sams of the world are not ripping her off and that her bills are paid etc.

When someone is mentally ill, they often refuse medication because they don't think they ARE mentally ill. Once she gets the meds into her and the fog lifts, she will start to see how sick she has been and will hopefully take the meds voluntarily and willfully. She will hopefully continue treatment at a good facility and come out functional, happy, and no longer tormented.

I don't see anything as force. I hope she will start to feel better and then regain control of her life.



Posted by: Anonymous

They need to keep the bitch medicated. She more than likely flashing her private body parts to everyone in there. She can't go to the gas station, or drive around talking to paps in her british accent. They need to medicate her and give her some serious therapy.



Posted by: Anonymous

JTard @ 5:13, post the links to previous usage as proof or SHUT THE FUCK UP!!

;) ** WAVES (like lameass jtard) **



Posted by: Alisa

Geez.You would brag even Britney's shit.Geez!YOu're pathetic!!!!!!!!!!111



Posted by: Anonymous

Oh JTARD, Boo hoo. Where's momma ...

Dish it but can't take it.

Didn't teach ya that at USC eh?



Posted by: Anonymous

electroshock therapy???? oh! thats really scary? do they do that for people who are bi-polar? omg! i feel so bad for her



Posted by: MissyK

yes, i'm sure to her it feels like they are being excessively cruel.

...remember, this is a woman that has gotten what she wanted and has NEVER been told NO.

detox, being told no, no media whoring, what's a girl to do?

the lack of papz is probably killing her.



Posted by: Anonymous

From Us Magazine...

In a 2005 complaint, Jumana Issa, a business acquaintance, claims Lutfi "harassed me repeatedly with obscene e-mails, offensive faxes, telephone voice mails (around 1 a.m. to 3 a.m.), out-of-control behavior and outrageous telephone hang-ups (around 15 to 30 a day)." In one fax, Lutfi scolded: "Peel yourself away from all the candy ... and overhangin [sic] belly ... and answer my e-mails."

His former neighbor, Douglas Snoland, filed a similar complaint in 2004, alleging that Lutfi tried to kick down his front door when he suspected Snoland of having his car towed. Snoland also accused Lutfi of wanting to kill his 73-year-old disabled mother. In the complaint, Snoland accused Lutfi of saying: "I will beat your ass ... Your mother is a f-----g old hag. You are a f----t. You will regret the day you ever met me." Lutfi’s attorney denied the threats, but a judge granted a three-year restraining order to Lutfi to stay at least 15 feet away from Snoland and his mom.



Posted by: KitKat

Just wondering, Why when Britney was in Rehab at promises after the head shaving eppisode did they not diagnos her Bi-Polar disorder then??? I believe that would be the Question of the day... Also my question, what exactly did Brits dad do to make her hate him so bad?



Posted by: New York, New York

the lack of papz is probably killing her.

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Yes, I think Brit has a long road ahead. I think she needs to be given to be given the time and space to learn who she is as a person. She's likely been told her whole life my her family/management who she SHOULD be, and has never had the opportunity to learn who she really is. Talk about an identity crisis! I hope she also comes to learn that attention from the paparazzi/fans does not equal love, and that that can only be found in her family and her boys. But before you can love other people, you have to love yourself. And considering all that's happened over the past year, it seems to me that's going to take a long time.



Posted by: Anonymous

It's so nice to wake up and not see pictures of Britney being led around like an anesthetized cow by Sam Lutfi. X17, what will you do with no Xclusive pics of Brit Brit making a fool of herself?



Posted by: New York, New York

Just wondering, Why when Britney was in Rehab at promises after the head shaving eppisode did they not diagnos her Bi-Polar disorder then??? I believe that would be the Question of the day... Also my question, what exactly did Brits dad do to make her hate him so bad?

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I'm guessing this is the root of her disdain for her parents - they, along with Larry Rudolph, sent her to rehab for issues with drugs and alcohol. And meanwhile, Brit was right - substance abuse wasn't her problem at all. No wonder she doesn't trust them anymore! I hope she can see past this someday and realize they were only trying to help. It just goes to show how little people in North American know about mental illness.



Posted by: Anonymous

So freaking true "New York, New York" I totally agree with you. No one knows who this person really is? She's been taught to be someone she isn't? It's going to take a hell of a long time for to find out who she really is and what she wants to be now??? Her fans think they own her and want to keep her thier "pop princess" and she doesn't seem to want that life any longer. She wants to break out of that mold. She does need to love herself first because the paps and fans are all in it for their own reasons and it's not the love she needs.
She really needs some serious help. I hope she stays in seclusion for a very long time. She needs to start all over again. Talking to the therapist every day, letting out the anger, pain etc..being alone to reflect. It's a long road ahead.



Posted by: steph

there are two sides to every story.. this ken guy from bitten is the guy asking sam all the questions & then using half the text.. i don't see the ones he sends sam ? where are they ?.. i just find it really odd that britney didn't want to have anything to do with her family (for quite sometime) and now, she's sick and they are rushing to get control of her money/life.. where was her mother/father at before, this has been going on for awhile it didn't just start with this trip to the er...



Posted by: Jamie Spears is a God!

I agree. Besides the fact that she is sick, I don't think the popstar/music thing is really turning Brit's crank anymore. Wasn't she talking about becoming a teacher? If she wants any sort of normal life, she's going to have to get the hell out of Dodge(L.A.), not sure if Louisiana is the answer for her though.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

why don't YOU go find the link ASSTARDS...? you're going to be going back for MONTHS though, since that's how LOOOOOOONG you've been obsessed w/me! ha!

PS ~ PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING 'AT' YOU, NOT *WITH* you JTARDS. :) buh-bye TARDS!! *WAVES*



Posted by: Anonymous

She does have a long road ahead of her in finding out who she is now and what she wants to do with herself. Loving herself is going to be a major part of her recovering too. L.A is not the best place for her. Hopefully she'll get the hell out of there. It has to be hard to be yourself in that town. Everyone in Holliwood is trying to be someone else?
They inject the lips, breast implants, lipo suction, weaves, going on crazy diets to loose 20 lbs for a movie. No one seems to accept you for who you are.
She should go somewhere more normal where you can be who you are and no one gives a damn. But I agree that she has to get so much therapy to get to where she needs to be mentally. The drugs and booze are a crutch to make her real problems just seem like they're not there.



Posted by: steph

yeah i think it was a teacher.. i don't think Louisiana is the place either.. maybe canada.. i do think she needs a lot of treatment, but i also think her parents are part of the issues she has and her knowing her father is in charge of things probably doesn't make it any easier to get the help she needs..



Posted by: New York, New York

I don't know, but I think Brit's still got a bright future ahead in the music world. To her credit, she's put out an album (all on her own, without the help of management or her parents) that's been getting great reviews from critics. I bought it the day it came out (make fun of me all you want!) and have been listening to it non-stop ever since. The vocals are more processed than Cheez Whiz, but the music is just as good as any of the hits that Gwen or Fergie have put out lately...if you're into that kind of thing.

My hope for Brit is just that she finds inner peace - and the rest will follow. Once she gets over her "control" issues, I hope she sees that some vocal lessons are in need to rein in that voice of hers. From there, she just might have a chance at being a "credible" artist. But I guess one can only dream.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

I'm guessing this is the root of her disdain for her parents - they, along with Larry Rudolph, sent her to rehab for issues with drugs and alcohol. And meanwhile, Brit was right - substance abuse wasn't her problem at all. No wonder she doesn't trust them anymore! I hope she can see past this someday and realize they were only trying to help. It just goes to show how little people in North American know about mental illness.

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i agree that that is where her RESENTMENT comes from, but i disagree that she didn't also have a drinking and/or drug problem.

in fact, i believe it's likely her recreational drug use/abuse brought upon & has exacerbated her MENTAL issues.

yes kids, DRUGS are BAD!!



Posted by: New York, New York

i agree that that is where her RESENTMENT comes from, but i disagree that she didn't also have a drinking and/or drug problem.

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You're probably quite right. I imagine that at the time, her parents just couldn't see the forest for the trees.



Posted by: Anonymous

I don't think she has a voice. That's a lot of pressure. Music is music but a voice is totally different. Take away all the background and just sing. Not everyone has a voice that can sound good all by itself. Following words in a song to make it look like it's you singing has to be a pain after a while.
Britney smokes a lot too and that damages what ever little voice she had.
She can help other kids who have talent and want to perform but don't have the means. She can have a show like "American idol" or something to help people who want and have the talent to be in the industry, or she can do just about anything because she has the money. She's got a perfume out and she can take that further. The things for her to do are endless since she has the money to do them. For certain she needs inner peace as you say and self love.



Posted by: James Spears is a God!

Ya,perhaps Idaho or Canada where she could hide out in the woods or potato patches & the papz aren't such unscrupulous slugs.That's a big part of her problem for sure.There's no doubt that she is a dynamite, all-inclusive package, with many talents. Otherwise, she wouldn't have sold so many albums, be the most googled woman on earth, worth millions to the economy etc. At the heart & soul of Britney is a sweet, small town girl who unfortunately drove off into the ditch(& almost off of the cliff!)..Let's hope she pulls through.



Posted by: New York, New York

I don't think she has a voice. That's a lot of pressure. Music is music but a voice is totally different. Take away all the background and just sing. Not everyone has a voice that can sound good all by itself. Following words in a song to make it look like it's you singing has to be a pain after a while.

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I don't know...if you go to YouTube and search for "Britney Spears" and "live," there's lots of different videos of her actually singing. Sometimes (mostly when she's older) she sounds like a cat in heat - kinda painful to listen to. But when she was younger she had a very unique voice - very powerful and emotional. I think she probably still has the talent - she just needs to learn how to control her "adult" singing voice. And dropping the smoking habit wouldn't hurt!



Posted by: K

Britney should forget about a career, and I don't mean that to be hateful. She is very sick and if she were not a celb, she would be labeled permanently disabled and most likely receive disability. She had a great run, but she will never be what she was. Her illness went on too long and I highly doubt she will ever compltely recover. The best thing she could do is concentrate on her family and being a good mom to those kids.



Posted by: Anonymous

You're riding a dead horse X17. Britney Spears' career was over a while ago. Her life will become a classic tale of abuse of the mentally ill.

With any luck, she might yet get to be involved in her children's lives and keep enough of her estate to support herself.

Fully invested, a $40 million dollar estate can only throw off about $175,000 a month in income after inflation protection. Her residual income will rapidly drop to nothing as her treatment for mental illness takes all her time and she fades in the public memory.



Posted by: James Spears is a God

Ya, you never know. If she harnasses all of the trauma & pain from this period of her life, she could channel it all into some great songs. It could be a huge comeback. That's if she decides agaist moving to Idaho of course & has the right people working with her.



Posted by: You Silly Yanks!

Ya,perhaps Idaho or Canada where she could hide out in the woods or potato patches & the papz aren't such unscrupulous slugs.

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What the heck? Do you think she should strap on her snowshoes and live in an igloo, too?!!? Why don't you come visit Canada some time and find out what it's REALLY like...just don't forget to bring your own toilet paper. We don't gots that stuff up here.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

new york...

i feel so badly for her parents, family, her kids & ex-husband kevin. watching someone you love sink lower & lower topping one depraved act after another is absolutely heartbreaking...

i don't have much sympathy for britney herself though because she's brought all of the problems she has upon herself - even the 'psychosis'! (whatever the heck she may actually have was more than likey stirred up due to the recreational drugs)

she needs to stop 'FIGHTING' everyone trying to 'HELP' & admit SHE HAS PROBLEMS! it's only then that she can begin to work on them... MAJOR DENIAL!!

that's the thing i actually pity her for... she'll NEVER get help or CHANGE unless she tunes into REALITY. now that is sad.



Posted by: Anonymous

I have to agree with jglad. Until she accepts she has a problem and really tries to help herself, she will not improve. Any good psychiatrist will tell you that the drugs will do so much. You have to want to get better and even then, it's a life long battle.



Posted by: New York, New York

she needs to stop 'FIGHTING' everyone trying to 'HELP' & admit SHE HAS PROBLEMS! it's only then that she can begin to work on them... MAJOR DENIAL!!

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I totally agree with you. But I think the denial part might be coming from the illness. I have cousins who suffer from ADD, Tourette's, Bi-Polar, etc., and a boyfriend who (I think might) suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder, and from what I've learned from reading books and talking with counsellors, the "control issue" part of it is called "counter will." The more you push someone with a mental illness to get help, the more they will dig in their heels. For instance, if I say to my boyfriend (who is 37-years old!), "It's a work night, and it's 11 pm - you should go get ready for bed," he absolutely won't go. Because he thinks I'm "telling him what to do" and "trying to control him." But if I say, "It's a work night, it's 11 pm - do YOU think you should go get ready for bed?" he will go, because he thinks he is in control and it's his decision to make. It's strange, but once I started using different language, suddenly life became a lot easier.

I'm guessing Brit's parents are going to have do the same...



Posted by: Anonymous

Canada is very nice. Love it! Britney could do well out there. Anywhere but L.A. although I think she loves living there. I don't see Britney singing again.
Not that there aren't other things she can do. Where she stands now and all the shit she's been through and still going through...not saying she's hasn't done this to herself but, I don't see her on a stage with million's of eyes staring at her, and disecting her body, if she's too fat, too thin, her skin not flawless, I don't think she can handle that shit again. Being on stage and getting the steps right. I couldn't do it. She's not shy but it is a whole lot of pressure. You have to be rock solid to take the good with the bad. In that industry your always being picked apart.



Posted by: Britneychoosesdeath

jglad? Thank you for such an insightful intelligent post.
I too feel sorry for the family especially the kids, but I also think there are some deep seeded reasons...dating way back to before Britney became a household name, that let to the problems she's having now...what ever her problems are....and YOU ARE RIGHT, she has to help herself.
:-)



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

OMG!! new york...

i think i know what's wrong w/MY BOYFRIEND now!!! :) and i am so serious & not joking! lol! i'm glad you've discovered the 'TRICK' to things running more smoothly & more importantly, for SHARING IT W/ME!! :)

as or brit, she definitely has 'CONTROL ISSUES'/'COUNTER WILL'... but how much of that is really part of MENTAL ILLNESS? is that her being a SPOILED REBELLING BRAT? she started being a 'WHATEVEA! I DO WHUT I WANT! type of person going back to the JT days...



Posted by: Anonymous

WHY are the mothers best friends going on ACCESS Hollywood to convince the world of how good a mom Lynne is. That is not right.. SHhhhhh... You know Lynne told them to do this.. shhhhh.. Britney needs help, keep quiet.

I am still one that sees Britney calling mom to tell her about Jason and her getting married and then seeing mom, brother and malloofs holding Britney hostage in a room while she was crying forcing her at the age of 23 to anull it.. That was so sad, almost out of an epic sad sad movie.. I have been reading about this girl and my heart goes out to her. Lynne don't make your friends go out there to make you look like a saint.. come on, this is your daughter, shhhhh...



Posted by: Anonymous

Poor Barbra. I'll bet she's cringing now that her surname has been dragged through the mud in this sordid case. Adam needs to crawl back under his rock and let the parents do what's right for their daughter.



Posted by: Anonymous

why didn't Lohans parents get control over her assetts too? She was out of control.. It was so hard to get my grandmother deemed disabled and incompetent, it took over 2 years she got so bad that even her aides refused to come to take care of her and when put in a home for the elders she got arrested that night and brought in for evaluation.. Mental Docs told us to take her home she passed all the evaluation.. at this point I think that money talks,, parents have 8 bulldog attorney and they got everything done so fast.. I'm amazed.. We went to the best docs too. This grams, did not drive did not make food for herself nothing.. All she wanted was a good time.. The docs would not help us, they just told us to lock her up in an insitution and keep her there with tons of anti agression meds,, to the point she had no idea what was going on.. Dad brought her home, he couldn't stand to see her like that.. She was drugged at the facility so they could control her and her not be a danger to the staff..



Posted by: New York, New York

as or brit, she definitely has 'CONTROL ISSUES'/'COUNTER WILL'... but how much of that is really part of MENTAL ILLNESS? is that her being a SPOILED REBELLING BRAT? she started being a 'WHATEVEA! I DO WHUT I WANT! type of person going back to the JT days...

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In Brit's case, I'm not sure if it's "Borderline Personality Disorder," or just "being a spoiled brat." Maybe it's a 90/10 split, with the 90 being the "spoiled brat" part. Who knows...

And my discovery about dealing with boyfriends might also have to do with the fact that they're male. It's just easier to let them THINK they're in control! And if playing Jeopardy and putting everything in the form of a question works - all the better!! :)



Posted by: Nurse O'Reilly

This is the diagnosis of:

justin's/Brandy/JTARD/JTWAT/JGLAD/JSAD - isn't it?

Mixed Bipolar Disorder which is the toughest BP types to treat. With MBP, you are depressed and manic at the same time. You generally don't get the euphoric, wonderful highs nor do you get the crippling suicidal depression.

You have all of it at once. Your mind is reeling. You can't sit still. Gotta go, gotta go, no need for sleep, I'm the sexiest person alive, I hate myself, I'm scared, I'm sad, I love people, I hate the paps, I love the paps, All I need is a new car/clothes/a new house and I will feel much better, I should end it all, I love you, I hate you, I'm ugly, I'm so beautiful, No one loves me, everyone loves me, I'm bored, gotta go somewhere, They can't tell me what to do, I rule the world, I wish someone would take care of me, why did people turn on me, I am the boss, I'm lost, I don't need your help, I'm not tired, I am exhausted...



Posted by: Anonymous

Where does this tool come from? He just bought a new suit because he knew he would be photographed. What a dork!

I am glad the judge has some sense and doesn't want attention himself.



Posted by: Anonymous

JTARD's a psychiatrist now. Who'd have knew??



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

the proper terminology would be "who'd have 'KNOWN'..." you ILLITERATE DUMBASS.

& no, i did NOT say that JTARD.

that's just more MISINFORMATION from your little BRITARDED TROLL FRIENDS.



Posted by: justin's glad he dodged that 'bullet'... errrrr, *MiSsLe*!!! =)

the proper terminology would be "who'd have 'KNOWN'..." you ILLITERATE DUMBASS.

& no, i did NOT say that JTARD.

that's just more MISINFORMATION from your little BRITARDED TROLL FRIENDS.



Posted by: Anonymous

GPS my ass!! It's so obvious X17 is in bed with Osama "Sam" Lufti. You know x17 made this up in kahoots with Osama!! It's just another attempt to cover up the scum of the earth OSAMA "Sam" Lufti's criminal behavior to Brittaney by cutting the batteries from her vehicles (ike he admitted to Lynn Spears), "he can control Brittaneys every move". Send that illegal back to the freakin middle east!!!!



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