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Jamie Spears: Brit Was In Contact With Sam And Adnan, Sam Is A "Predator"

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Yesterday, Britney Spears' dad Jamie testified for nearly 90 minutes about why he felt a long-term restraining order against Sam Lutfi, Adnan Ghalib and attorney John Eardley was necessary. According to the Associated Press, Jamie called Sam a "predator" and accused him of grinding up medication and putting it in Brit's food, adding that his daughter's former manager was a "danger" to the family. Of Sam, Jamie said, "We asked him to go away. He agreed to go away. I just want the man to go away."

Jamie also revealed that his security detail confiscated a prepaid cell phone from Britney last month, and it was discovered that the pop princess attempted to call Sam, and both his and Adnan's numbers were in the phone. Jamie said Britney told him the phone was given to her at a hotel by someone who said it was from Sam and Adnan. As you may already know, Brit has a cell phone, but her father controls her access to it and monitors her every move.

Is it fair that Jamie controls Brit's phone calls like this? I know he's her conservator, but being a 27-year-old and not having the freedom to do anything without being watched must be incredibly frustrating...



Do you think Britney is trying to get in touch with Sam and Adnan, or is it the other way around?

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Posted by: B

Hello I don't know why i have this eerie feeling that x17 somehow has some connection to Adnan and Sam or that they miss her being with them because back when she was with them x17 used to get alot more shots of Brit don't you think? x17 used to be all over her at her every move all over the place and ever since she got better and Sam and Adnan aren't in her life anymore x17 aren't shooting her every move is it that x17 were in cahoots with them? If this post doesn't make it to the site then it probably means that I'm right!



Posted by: Anonymous

yes, she needs to be under the constant supervision of her conservators. she is legally unable to care for herself, much like a child and may be treated as such. whatever her dad is doing is working. whatever sam was doing was obviously sending her to the looney bin and putting her on a path of destruction. sam makes a lifestyle of destroying wealthy people. i challenge ANYONE to find ONE PERSON who can say "sam was a great influence and and really helped me in my time of need". x-17 why do you kiss this creep's ass?



Posted by: Anonymous

She can't talk on the phone. He doesn't want her talking to these devils. I'm sure she can talk to anyone else but the shady past she used to talk too.



Posted by: Anonymous

sam may not be good for britney, and adnan is gross, but britney's said she feels like a prisoner and she's obvs miserable. her dad is trying to mess with things beyond his control and of course he's profiting from that, which makes him just as bad as those muslim creeps. I give her another 4-5 years before she pulls an anna nicole. I feel bad for her...



Posted by: Anonymous

Ooops

SHE CAN TALK ON THE PHONE. He doesn't want her talking to these devils. I'm sure she can talk to anyone else but the shady past she used to talk too.



Posted by: Anonymous

i wish all vulnerable people in the world had a Dad, a security team and the courts to protect them from underhanded scam artists like Adnan and Sam. there sure would be far less people losing their life savings and retirements to these opportunistic, parasite, scumbags.



Posted by: Anonymous

look her father is sick controlling & dirty old man if his daughter is capable of singing throwing camcerts & not able to make a phone call to friends, c,mon he control her life he thinking , the girl is samrt capable & able, he,s just ridingon her money, dont go blaming x17 or anyone it,s a free country what made her dirty old dad right & the others wrong, america wake up , her parents are users abuser & whute trash , sam did not harm her one bit rather she enjoyed his company, & you,ll all see one day how she feels about her sick father, sam is a decent man she,s the one who seek him
get off his ass & be samrt , what do u know about her father other than beeing money hungry abusive & sick let,s not forget a looser



Posted by: Anonymous

He needs to loosen the grip a little. Let her go out every once in awhile. I agree with monitoring things. He doesn't want Sam and Adnan around. That's why he does it.



Posted by: Lori

The fact that she is still trying to talk to these men is an obvious sign that her reasoning skills are still wacked. She still cannot make good decisions on her own. At this rate she will never be able to live her life without someone always monitoring her. Wake the hell up Brit.



Posted by: Anonymous

8:27, you must be kidding...she was on her way to becomming an Anna Nicole due to SAM!



Posted by: Anonymous

As a person who has gone through major depression and anxiety in the past, I can tell you how emotionally draining it is on friends and family. I don't think what Sam did was right, but I think he was just trying to do what he could given the circumstances. She was defiant, out of control and most likely manipulative and at least he was there for her. It seems like her parents only stepped in at the last moment.

Now she is being cared for by the very people who caused her to be like this in the first place, so I am sure that doesn't feel good at all.



Posted by: Anonymous

oh, and let's remember that her dad gave up his successful business as a chef to deal with his grown daughter's craphole she dug for herself. jamie spears is doing the same thing any responsible and loving parent would do. if big daddy just wanted to make $$ off his daughter, he'd simply spill all the beans to a barbara walters. the guy wants to see his daughter live up to her potential - or how about just LIVE. she can't talk on the phone to scammers or go out clubbing....waaaaaaaaa!



Posted by: THE OC'

Anonymous 8:40 - Are you nuts? Sam wasn't doing what he thought was 'right'.. you don't smash up pills and place them in people food and drinks.. come on, who in their right mind does that? I personally think sam should be charged with atempted murder! If Brit Brit were to still be with Sam, it was only a matter of time, until something really bad happened. The guy is a PIG, and he knew just what he was doing to Britney!

I give much credit to her father, it can't be an easy job! GOOD JOB PAPA!



Posted by: Anonymous

after what daddy has done to try to straighten her up, if she did this shit by trying to call those two then I say the hell with her I would walk away from the bitch and let her self distruct, she WOULD NOT be my kid any longer let her Anna Nicole Smith out I say!



Posted by: THE OC'

Anonymous 8:40 - Are you nuts? Sam wasn't doing what he thought was 'right'.. you don't smash up pills and place them in people food
and drinks.. come on, who in their right mind does that? I personally think sam should be charged with atempted murder! If Brit Brit were to still be with Sam, it was only a matter of time, until something really bad happened. The guy is a PIG, and he knew just what he was doing to Britney!

I give much credit to her father, it can't be an easy job! GOOD JOB PAPA!



Posted by: QueenOfTrashin

Well, it's what happens when the train runs off of the track.



Posted by: Anonymous

Anyone who thinks Sam was a good influence is out of their minds. This woman had no control of herself, lost her children and her career was becoming a joke. She is clearly in need of her father. Is it all Sam's fault? No. But he was not and will never be a good influence on Britney. She was clearly in the early stages of losing it when she did that interview with Matt Lauer.



Posted by: Anonymous

If she is talking to them...then you know what I say let her do what she wants! If she wants to ruin her life, well then let her! She needs to learn lessons the hard way obviously. She's 27 for crying out loud! Time to grow up, buttercup!



Posted by: Anonymous

She is being treated for being Bi-Polar! It's a matter of getting the right medicine and having the right people surrounding you. People that love you and have your best interests at heart! She is much better off than she was with those 2 scumbags!



Posted by: Yeah right

Anonymous 9:00

If your son or daughter or BBF was losing it, you would just sit there and do nothing, nice friend you are.....

*shame on you*



Posted by: Yeah right

Anonymous 9:00

If your son or daughter or BBF was losing it, you would just sit there and do nothing, nice friend you are.....

*shame on you*



Posted by: Yeah right

Anonymous 9:00

If your son or daughter or BBF was losing it, you would just sit there and do nothing, nice friend you are.....

*shame on you*



Posted by: that is the damn truth, deal with it.

He was there for her from the beginning until her stupid parents came in at the last second to steal all the glory and try to take all the attention off what a sad excuse for parents they had become.



Posted by: Anonymous

nobody would want to be under a c-ship weather its helping them or not no matter who is in charge of the c-ship they cant make the person do things they dont want to do, thats why they have a lawyer in the c-ship, people say jamie is using her and controlling her but yet when britney was with sam and adnan everyone was asking where are her parents, and as soon as her father who never wanted to be famous never wanted even britney to be famous steps in and turns his daughters life around he gets grief, but its seems that most of that is from x17 jfx breatheavy sam and adnan
and thats because they are losing money on a stable britney, her family have steped up to the plate and looked after her put her back in her place any normal family would do this and if britney was in contact with sam and adnan well then the c-ship is justified,
britney might be 27 but she was always very imature for her age and with her been so famous and going through all her personal problems it was going to affect her but she didnt have the maturity or the cop-on to handle it.
she might of wanted sams help at the start but i really dont think so know and if someone gave her a phone and said it was from sam and adnan then sam did brake the restraing order.
i think the juged should let britney speak in court in front of her father sam and adnan and the media and tell her
story because then and only then will everyone know the truth and then sam adnan x17 jfx and jordan will finally know that britney needs saving from them not her father or the c-ship.



Posted by: Anonymous

9:40am well said.totally agree.



Posted by: Anonymous

Some juicy family secrets are about to come out in Sam's law suit. Cant wait. She is being whored out by her daddy and the whole world is just watching in awe She cant have phones or drive or custody of herself or her kids but she can strip for videos and travel with the circus !!!! WTF ??? R U SERIOUS ???



Posted by: Anonymous

9:40am well said.totally agree.



Posted by: Anonymous

TEAM JAMIE



Posted by: Anonymous

TEAM JAMIE



Posted by: Anonymous

Look who she calls when she does have free access. I'm starting to think she is beyond hope and all this hard work Jamie is doing is for nothing. Eventually Britney will just go back to her crazy ways and stay crazy, lose the kids completely, and self destruct.



Posted by: Anonymous

I agree 9:59-she took the phone...she knew it was wrong!!! Look who she was talking to..enough said.



Posted by: Anonymous

Is she not smart enough yet to realize what those 3 men had done to her life(K-fat, Sam, & Adnan)? I mean, c'mon. It doesn't take a genius to see it. I am a Britney fan but I'm starting to wonder if this girl has ANY brains left. What does she want with them? I don't get it. She needs to stand up and be a strong person and rid those users from her life HERSELF and not cause daddy wants her to. I'm beginning to wonder if she liked her old life.



Posted by: Anonymous

basically, this tour was created for everyone BUT Britney and her fans...

According to new reports, Britney will spend an astounding $7.2million on her "staff" this year.

Ha!

Better yet, the site claims Britney will make $100 million from her "Circus" tour.

Another ha!

Here's the breakdown:

Britney, who pays her father / conservator, Jamie Spears, $16,000 a month, will also have to shell out an additional $24,000 in 2008 for "office fees" for Mr. Spears.

He works at home.

Additionally, Britney will pay her mom over $200,000 just for being ~Lynne.~ This total is excluded from the profits Lynne is making off her book, Through The Storm, her gigantic "poor me" rant and the exploitation of her daughters.

Commissioner Goetz, the authority in Britney's conservatorship case, ordered that an attorney for Britney's brother Bryan be paid $4777.50 "for services rendered in December and January."

This does not include the several hundred thousand dollars Britney has been paying Bryan.

Britney's on-again, off-again manager, Larry Rudolph (where the hell has he been lately?), will receive up to $1.5 million this year.

Britney, not Jamie, will pay "eight bodyguards who work in shifts round the clock each earn $150,000, adding up to a personal security bill of $1.2million."

Britney will also shell out $480,000 this year to ex-husband, Kevin Federline, "made up of $20,000 per month in 'spousal support' and $15,000 a month on nannies for their sons Preston, three, and Jayden, two."

This excludes the additional $5,000 a week Kevin will receive by following Britney around on tour with his whore girlfriend.

Speaking of tour, Britney will reportedly pay her "Circus" tour staff a total of $616,000 a month.

And Brett? Bitch apparently makes $100,000 a year for being the official dog shit picker-upper.

This does not include the millions of dollars Britney will spend on lawyers fees this year, including the two lawyers Britney recently hired in her latest lawsuit with Sam Lutfi, which will cost $935 an hour.

Don't forget about her conservator and custody lawyers, but you get the idea.

So is this tour really for us? or simply there to pay off astronomical legal and family fees?

It's OK, as long as there's shiny costumes and bright lights, we can just forget the real issue at hand and sweep everything under the rug.



Posted by: Anonymous

Britney's on-again, off-again manager, Larry Rudolph (where the hell has he been lately?), will receive up to $1.5 million this year.

Britney, not Jamie, will pay "eight bodyguards who work in shifts round the clock each earn $150,000, adding up to a personal security bill of $1.2million."

Britney will also shell out $480,000 this year to ex-husband, Kevin Federline, "made up of $20,000 per month in 'spousal support' and $15,000 a month on nannies for their sons Preston, three, and Jayden, two."

This excludes the additional $5,000 a week Kevin will receive by following Britney around on tour with his whore girlfriend.

Speaking of tour, Britney will reportedly pay her "Circus" tour staff a total of $616,000 a month.

And Brett? Bitch apparently makes $100,000 a year for being the official dog shit picker-upper.



Posted by: Anonymous

Sam & Adnan know where to get her drugs, that's why she likes them and they like her money. Britney's dad loves his daughter, he is protecting her to the best of his ability. I hope the courts see that. I hope Sam & Adnan get nothing, they deserve nothing, because drugs can kill.



Posted by: Anonymous

This does not include the millions of dollars Britney will spend on lawyers fees this year, including the two lawyers Britney recently hired in her latest lawsuit with Sam Lutfi, which will cost $935 an hour.

Don't forget about her conservator and custody lawyers, but you get the idea.

So is this tour really for us? or simply there to pay off astronomical legal and family fees?

It's OK, as long as there's shiny costumes and bright lights, we can just forget the real issue at hand and sweep everything under the rug.



Posted by: Anonymous

SCREWING UP YOUR LIFE CAN BE EXPENSIVE AND EMBARRASSING. THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO PREY ON THE RICH & MENTALLY ILL AND MAKE A LIVING OUT OF DESTROYING THEM.



Posted by: Anonymous

AND THEIR NAMES ARE SAM AND ADNAN



Posted by: Anonymous

AND THEIR NAMES ARE SAM AND ADNAN



Posted by: Just Being Honest

Can't stomach Shitney, but I do think she is totally talking to Adnoid and Sam the Sham. She made those phone calls for help, no doubt about it. Can't say I blame her on that one. Big Daddy will never let her go because he can whore her out for money. He has a tight reign and he is hanging those kids over her head. She will crack soon, and I think those close to her know it. It will be impossible for her to finish this tour. I honestly think Jamie begged Fe to come back thinking that would keep her sane, but the pressure will be too much and all this bad press will eventually bite her in the ass again. She's doomed really. If I were her, I'd make a run for it. Her dad will never let her go.



Posted by: Angie

Whatever her father has been doing it is working. She has access to her children again, she is back in good physical condition, she is no longer cruising the strip at all hours of the night allowing strangers to jump in her car.
Whatever Jamie feels is best the court needs to go with it. He is her father and his primary motive is her and her children.



Posted by: Mick

seriously is britney retarded...I think she is!



Posted by: Sunnyday myspace.com/sunnydayagain

ETs , spirits?
The very same so powerless , so so stinking dead shit .
No Thanks!
Love :)



Posted by: Anonymous

Did you ever try talking to a teenager who think they know everything? Did you ever notice how every single decision they make for themselves ends up being the WRONG one? Some people just really need someone to take care of them because they are too stupid. Sam & Adnan did not do a very good job taking care of crazy Brit and Jamie seems to be handling it. Every time she's let off the choke chain, she self-destructs. Now is the time to really pull on the leash hard! She'll thank you for it later, Jamie.



Posted by: Anonymous

Of course his idiot infant daughter from hell is in contact with these criminal, lying douche bags behind her father's back and she'd still be in contact with them if she could! But hey, if this sort of bullshit is what she demands, let her have them! Dumb bitch is hell bent on self destruction and if she wants life to stomp herself into a mudhole, let her! She's just too stupid to save or be saved!



Posted by: Anonymous

I think she's just desperate to get out of this. I don't think she really wants them back in her life, i just think she was trying to use them to help her out of the conservatorship. If you were in her shoes, wouldnt you want to break way too?

Her song "Mannequin" from her Circus album demonstrates her life right now. "My face like a mannequin". You can put whatever you want her, you can make her do whatever you want her to do, but that mannequin is always gonna be hollow inside. You can do whatever you want with Britney, but she's not gonna be happy because she can't call the shots.

I just want her to be happy. I think her whole life she has always had to do what was asked for her, and I just wish people would focus on Britney the person rather than on Britney the money maker.



Posted by: FREE BRITNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JAMIE QUIT EXPLOITING YOUR DAUGHTER!

MAN UP AND GET A JOB!

QUIT RELYING ON YOUR DAUGHTER FOR MONEY!

YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!



Posted by: Britney is a Slave 4 U Jamie!

Jamie also revealed that his security detail confiscated a prepaid cell phone from Britney last month.

Is this f*cking China or something???

What gives them the right to look through Britney's belongings???

Quit treating Britney like a child!

Britney will never fully recover unless she is treated like an adult and has a non-family conservator that is not using her as an ATM.



Posted by: Anonymous

ha luv brit wat a qt:)



Posted by: Anonymous

Go Sam! lol!



Posted by: Anonymous

JAMIE IS A LIAR! SAM IS A CUDDLEY TEDDY BEAR!



Posted by: Anonymous

If the Britney fans got their wish and Jamie let Britney do whatever she wants, she would be dead within a year. Whether you fans want to admit it or not, the fact is that Jamie saved Britney's life, and probably kept her from losing all her money to Sam and who knows who else she was involved with. Britney had lost ALL custody rights, but since her dad is in control, she gets to see them quite often. Prior to her meltdown, Jamie had walked away from Britney's business, and refused ANY money from her (unlike Satan's bitch, Lynne). So what if he gets paid $16k a month. No doubt he saved her MILLIONS by stepping in. She's paying Larry Rudolph $125,000 a month or $1.5 MILLION a year, but I don't hear you bitching about that! Her freakin bodyguards who do nothing but make sure nobody gets to her make $150,000 a year, but you want to whine and make stupid accusations because Jamie makes just a little more than that for babysitting her 24/7, keeping her from losing all her money, getting some visitation with her boys, and keeping the stupid bitch alive? EVERY PENNY he spends is accounted for to the courts. If he misappropriated any money, the judge would remove him in a heartbeat. Some of you folks are so stupid - it makes sense that you are Britney fans...



Posted by: Anonymous

A real man would not rely on handouts from his daughter.



Posted by: Anonymous

Like I said in a post on another site, I questioned Jamie letting Britney do this tour. But the more I think about it, I believe that Jamie knows Britney's days are numbered, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. She is hell-bent on killing herself. So he is letting do the tour and make all the money she can so that he can sock it away and make sure her boys are set for life.



Posted by: Anonymous

A real daughter would not act so irresponsibly that her dad would have to babysit her 24/7/365.

And it's not a handout, he's earned every penny you idiot. Do the math.



Posted by: Sunnyday myspace.com/sunnydayagain

That tour will fail and Britney get bankrupt , I guess.
It may give her back freedom , send Kev to job etc.



Posted by: Anonymous

Just because you're a Britney fan doesn't make you stupid. There are TONS of people who are just fans of her music (me included) and people who just like to talk about her life.

Am I pissed that she's been doing this? Yeah. But she wants out of the conservatorship. If you were being forced to have a child's rights at the age of 27, wouldn't you want to break free? I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it, I'm saying I think people are using her for their own fame and fortune, they could care less about Britney the person.

I want her to be happy. I want her to be with her boys, and just be happy. Do I think she's learned her lesson? Somewhat. She seems more stable now, and she seems happier in a lot of ways. But I also think that she has been through a lot in her life. This conservatorship WILL end. When that will happen is unknown. If she wants out of this, she needs to prove to people that she can take control, and maintain that. Once that is done, she will be able to do what she wants to again.

Britney, keep your head up high. You have fans that are gonna stick by you no matter what. Please, just maintain a good relationship with the man who saved your life, and is allowing you to live a much better one.



Posted by: Anonymous

This women is 27 years old it's really ridiculos her father treating her like a little girl. He really should back up and give her some space, I understand as a parent we want the best for our children but damn she is not a child she is a grown women. If she wants to talk to thoes men so what that her business. I really believe she wants out of that conservatorship it sounds like hell, she not any better just controlled.



Posted by: Anonymous

This women is 27 years old it's really ridiculos her father treating her like a little girl. He really should back up and give her some space, I understand as a parent we want the best for our children but damn she is not a child she is a grown women. If she wants to talk to thoes men so what that her business. I really believe she wants out of that conservatorship it sounds like hell, she not any better just controlled.



Posted by: Anonymous

Yeah, just let her have her freedom so she can fuuck up her life the rest of the way! She's determined to do it anyway, so why stand in her way? Oh, that's right. She's a cash cow without a single functioning brain cell left in her smoke and Cheeto filled hollow cranium.



Posted by: Anonymous

Like I said in a post on another site, I questioned Jamie letting Britney do this tour. But the more I think about it, I believe that Jamie knows Britney's days are numbered, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. She is hell-bent on killing herself. So he is letting do the tour and make all the money she can so that he can sock it away and make sure her boys are set for life.

----------------------------------------

I, and others have repeatedly tried to explain this to her young fans. I’m glad someone else with common sense is commenting!



Posted by: Anonymous

11:25 AM There is a risqué double entendre in your comment! ;)



Posted by: . • .∀№ηλ][\i/][oῧs. • .

This cell phone is just the tip of the iceberg, when you think of what she might get her hands on while on tour!
Good luck Papa Spears!



Posted by: Anonymous

ANYONE WHO FAVORS SAM AND ADNAN AND WHAT X17 THINKS ARE PROBABLY A PAPZ OR AN X17 PAYROLE!!!

BRITNEY IS OBVIOUSLY NOT CAPABLE OF INTELLIGENT DECISION TO BE STILL TALKING TO THESE SCAMS THEREFORE DAD IS DOING WHATS ULTIMATE BEST FOR HER AND BESIDES DIDNT DAD DID A PRETTY HELL OF A GOOD JOB FOR WHAT BRITNEY IS NOWADAYS???



Posted by: Anonymous

Yes, she's grown into quite the immature little backstabber, hasn't she!



Posted by: Anonymous

I can't wait for the day that Sam gets what he deserves, have fun going to prison!



Posted by: Anonymous

Talking to Adnan and Sam? She has sunk low. But is being in prison with her father any better?



Posted by: Anonymous

TEAM JAMIE!!!!!!

GO AWAY poison pals!!

This is for her own safety and I'm sure her brother and sister would come to her rescue if what their father was doing hurt Britney.

Sam and Adnan need to go away - let this Mother of 2 get her life on track



Posted by: Anonymous

Last time I checked being stupid wasn't a mental illness. She can learn dance routines, she can string a sentence together, she has enough sense to shoot a documentary and plug her perfume--so exactly where is the mental illness? Bad decision making skills--yes. Unrealistic expectations of men--yes. Stubborn and mule headed--yes.
If this girl didn't have money, no court would put her under a conservatorship. It's all about protecting the bank account, not about protecting the girl.



Posted by: lacy

People who keeps saying this oppresion is ok fail to realize that it is illegal to keep someone in a 'personal' c-ship, this oppresive thing that allows her fleesing 'staff' treat her like an animal, this is only legal in cases where the conservatee is unable to feed herself, use the toilet by herself, practice basic personal hygine and has a tendency to get lost..Britney does not meet any of this criteria, and since this is done under duress while her jailers steal millions of her $s..I say these bastards should all be thrown in jail, especially james, his lawyer andrew wallet, judge goetz, and the court appointed lawyer, all have committed civil rights violations for profit.



Posted by: Anonymous

Oh man, someone is making an argument for immediately revising the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).



Posted by: . • .∀№ηλ][\i/][oῧs. • .

Honestly, in the beginning the appointing of Jamie as her conservator was the best thing for Britney. Sadly it seems as if his “plan” was to put her life back to the way it was. He did what he knew once” worked”. He doesn’t have the capacity to teach her the life-skills she lacks. There is a BIG difference between TAKING CARE of someone and TEACHING someone TO CARE FOR THEMSELVES. Britney contacting Sam proves she has learned NOTHING.
IMO....It’s the old proverb: "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."



Posted by: . • .∀№ηλ][\i/][oῧs. • .

Or Devil's advocate: "Sell a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man how to fish, you ruin a wonderful business opportunity."
Karl Marx



Posted by: Anonymous

I totally agree with the "OC"



Posted by: Anonymous

4:25/4:28 I think Jamie is just doing his best to cope with her health problems and resolve her financial problems. I doubt she’s capable of changing. JMO







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